Re: OSPF Authentication Methods - (3)

Darby, to be honest, I do find it somewhat...insulting... that you think
that "everyone" or at least, most people, don't know about the certain
things you post, when in fact, they are common knowledge & have been known
for a pretty long time (at least to me), and is generally speaking, old
news.
Perhaps you should be more careful with the use of the word "everyone"?

It's one thing to say, guys, I don't know if you know this (you prob do)...
its quite another to make general assumptions that everyone doesn't know
what you are talking about.

On 21 May 2011 20:32, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:

> And when you reach 80% full, you simply get a bigger glass. ;)
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> On 5/20/11 3:05 PM, Max Pierson wrote:
> > My job title has always been engineer, so my thinking is the glass is
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> > the size it needs to be :)
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> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Ronnie Angello <
> ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>wrote:
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> >> Is the glass half empty or half full?
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> >> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>> It's a perfectly valid point and I stated that in my first sentence.
> >>> It depends on the point of view. For me "no authentication" means that
> >>> "no information pertaining to the presence or absence of
> >>> authentication is present". In OSPF, when using NULL authentication,
> >>> information that this authentication type is used is present, hence my
> >>> agreement with 3 methods.
> >>>
> >>> In large scheme of things, it's not really that relevant is
> >>> authentication type 0 an authentication or not, as long as we know
> >>> it's there.
> >>>
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> >>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:40, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> I always saw it as a two step process as well, you enable
> >> authentication
> >>> and
> >>>> then, apply. When you enable authentication it needs to be enabled on
> >>> both
> >>>> ends of the link. So i guess we are saying the same thing.
> >>>>
> >>>> But i still have problems with OSPF having three authentication
> >> methods.
> >>>> Especially when they say type "0" is one type of authentication and
> >> when
> >>> you
> >>>> look it up, it states that "0" means NO Authentication.
> >>>>
> >>>> But i see everyones point here.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
> >> markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:50, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> So OSPF can not work without authentication.
> >>>>> If you consider "null authentication" as "no authentication", then it
> >>>>> can. However, if you consider it as authentication, then no, it can't
> >>>>> :-).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I always approached OSPF authentication as a two-stage authentication
> >>>>> - one stage is type-match, the other one is password match. From that
> >>>>> perspective, I would agree with the statement above that OSPF cannot
> >>>>> work without the authentication, as the first-stage is always present
> >>>>> in the packets.
> >>>>>
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