Re: R&S ATTEMPT

From: travis newshott <tnewshott_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 09:56:00 -0500

Bryan, thanks so much for the write up. It is quite refreshing to see
people attack it as a process and seeing the first "attempt" as just a
stepping stone. When I first started down this path I didn't quite possess
that jewel of wisdom, but once you pick it up, it seems to help in the
motivation and drive.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Larry Hadrava <larryh12203_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Great write up and words of advice.
> I passed the lab 8 years ago - the content changes, but he need to have an
> effective strategy that includes time management has not.
> Your advice to practice things like you will do them in the "real" lab, is
> what I tell folks all the time. My phrase is: Practice like you fight (a
> phrase I picked up in the military).
>
> You have a good handle on things and you will get your number the next time
> around!!!
>
>
> Thanks
> Larry Hadrava
> CCIE #12203
> Check Out MyBlog: http://ccie12203.wordpress.com/
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Stair" <uptown.ccie_at_gmail.com>
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:55:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: R&S ATTEMPT
>
> Guys,
>
> I'm back with another critique of the lab exam. Here are my thoughts
> without
> disclosing anything harmful or breaking the NDA. I view this as a
> tremendous
> learning experience that is helped make me stronger. You've got to be
> strong
> to study day and night and remember the amount of material presented on the
> test. With that said....the test is never hard, but quite tricky. This
> attempt they had some vague questions that can be interpreted the wrong
> way.
> Ah ha...that's what the proctor is there for and I made use of it. I asked
> questions about what are they really asking since there are several
> meanings
> to the question. If you are not the person crafting the question...good
> luck. The proctor made some things clearer, but from the answers even they
> felt this was quite ambiguous.
>
> The troubleshooting was quite tricky. Now I feel that I am an excellent
> troubleshooter since I have worked on many large scale networks getting to
> the bottom problems that no one else seems to catch. The problem is they
> only give you a short period of time to get to the answer. Time management
> is very important and I will not let it get past me the next time. I missed
> passing this part right under the radar.
>
> I studied the things I knew I was weak at. I went over them in detail to
> the
> point I could remember things by heart and in my sleep. I did not black
> hole
> or felt clueless about anything. I knew what they were after and had a
> method to get it right. I left a few points on the table as I expect I
> passed this part, but without the troubleshooting no dice. Close but no
> cigar.
>
> Here is my advice for anyone making an attempt soon. Cover the material you
> are weak at or at least know why you are weak at it. If you thing its not
> going to be on the test or I can skip this part, you are in for a rude
> awakening. Second practice what you are actually going to do on the exam.
> Redraw diagrams make notes, etc.... It will help you when you start to feel
> stuck, or just overwhelmed from the experience.
>
> I have a new game plan already and I am going to change one thing which
> will
> make me a lot more successful. I would share it with everyone, but this is
> something personal I realized about myself. If I incorporate this with some
> additional vigor then I have no choice but to be successful.
>
>
> I Can't Accept Not Trying.....
>
> Setbacks are Setups For Comebacks
>
>
> Ciao
>
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