Re: TSHOOT or Not?

Hello Marc,
Preparing for the exams in the CCNP and CCIP tracks is possibly a good idea.
Together, these two tracks cover a large part of the R&S Blueprint.
The R&S (lab) will be a completely different animal to any of the
professional exams you have ever taken, you have to know the technologies
and the interaction between them, in much, much more detail compared to any
professional level exam.
However, in terms of a basic preparation, and for the fact that you will be
concentrating on one single topic at a time - think stepping stones idea -
instead of being distracted by all the other topics on the blueprint..it is
worth thinking about.
Hope this helps. Good Luck with your studies.
Best Regards, Hubert.

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all the advice. I am lucky enough to have skillport here at
> work and I will follow up with the Cisco Press to see if TSHOOT would
> be worth while. I have some free seats and want to use them wisely to
> help pass my upcoming R & S lab (wish 360 would adjust the format to
> accept written credits in trade forlLab assessment products...).
>
> Jay you make a great point. Perhaps that getting more involved in the
> CCIP track could be more beneficial than TSHOOT. After my month long
> encounter with BGP and INE's vol 1, it wouldn't be far fetched that I
> could sit on that exam and score well...I think the QoS would be
> super helpful as well. I have really focused so intensely on the core
> 80% + IPV6 and Multicast that QoS has taken a back seat rarely being
> touched.
>
> I do have a friend who went for his lab R & S and decided the CCIP
> would be all he needed. He ended up attaining his CCNP/CCIP and
> failing R & S shortly after. I don't want to put too much emphasis on
> this track but figure that I could gain from the exams to see how
> prepared I am. I think the strategy will be to sit the BGP and/or QoS
> (based on how many free sits I can get) to measure where the
> deficiencies lie within this topic via this exam score. Use it to move
> forward in my CCIE studies but not get too wrapped up in what is
> involved to pass those tests.
>
> Marc Edwards - DCNISS
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Hey Marc. A follow up from last nights WebEx session as well- Thanks.
> >
> > To
> > your point, and to follow Darby, I would disagree with TSHOOT. I would
> > advise for, as I'm also considering, the CCIP track. It consists of BGP,
> > MPLS,
> > QoS, and ROUTE.
> > 642-902 ROUTE Implementing Cisco IP Routing (ROUTE)
> > 642-642 QOS Implementing Cisco Quality of Service (QoS)
> > 642-661 BGP
> > Configuring BGP on Cisco Routers (BGP)
> > 642-611 MPLS Implementing Cisco MPLS
> > (MPLS)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jay McMickle- CCNP, CCSP, CCDP, MCSE
> > http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Nish Vamadevan <ipnish_at_gmail.com>
> > To: Darby Weaver
> > <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>; ccie forum <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Thu, May
> > 12, 2011 6:10:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: TSHOOT or Not?
> >
> > Short answer No, the RS is
> > completely different IMO.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Nish
> >
> > http://twitter.com/nish
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> > Sender:
> > nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 19:02:40
> > To: ccie
> > forum<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Reply-To: Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> > Subject: TSHOOT or Not?
> >
> > Would it be worth while to sit a CCNP TSHOOT to
> > practice for the R &
> > S? If just for the confidence... is there any relevance?
> > Maybe I
> > should have checked archives but appreciate any feedback. Thanks for
> > suggestions.
> >
> > Marc Edwards
> > http://reno-ccie.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > Disclaimer: I've
> > yet to sit the new version 4.0 of the CCIE RS
> > Troubleshooting Lab.
> >
> > However,
> > I've seen a INE, the current Cisco 360, and the Cisco 360 TU Beta
> > Labs...
> >
> > I'd
> > take the Cisco 360 TU Beta Labs when they are ready for sale over the
> > others... why?
> >
> > 1. 30 Devices - They are also delivered on the Cisco IOU
> > platform. Same as
> > the real exam.
> > 2. You get all of the same feelings or
> > remorse and doom as I'd imagine the
> > real CCIE lab induces.
> >
> > 3. Kinda out
> > there... but has anyone looked into their Cisco 360 Account
> > Portal and seen
> > the specific labs offered by the Cisco 360 lately?
> >
> > I heard they were not that
> > good... Hah!!!
> >
> > Not true says I.
> >
> > They are quality labs that deal with:
> >
> > -
> > BGP Confederations, Next-Hop-Self, EBGP Multihup, Prefix-lists, AS-Path
> > Lists,
> > Local Preference, etc. + troubleshooting and more...
> > - IP PIM Auto-RP, IP
> > Mroute, Tshooting for Multicast, IP PIM NBMA Mode,
> > just to name a few and of
> > course there are more...
> > - IPv6 - Umm... enough!
> > - Catalyst QoS - What else
> > can I tell you?
> > - MPLS - Umm... it's in there... even sham-links with the
> > explanation
> >
> >
> > Hint: The Cisco CCIE Program and NMC have long been allies.
> > Take it for what it is worth.
> >
> > Darby
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Darby Weaver
> > Network Engineer
> > http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
> >
> > darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com
> >
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