Re: OT (Hint: maybe on-topic if you need to need help)

Thanks ole buddy. It's been a while.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:23 PM, oluwaseyi ojo <sameoj_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Darby and his controversial character,welcome back!!!!!
>
> On 4/30/11, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > Darby I wasn't agreeing with you, I was agreeing with Ernest. I'm sure
> > you're a good guy however bashing vendors in a public forum is just plain
> > wrong. I myself am a customer of one of the "expert" vendors and the
> > materials, as well as the support that I get are second to none. Marko,
> > Scott, Narbik, Tyson and all the others are all excellent instructors,
> and
> > we should be grateful they exist, all of them have helped me tremondously
> in
> > my CCIE preperation, as well as my career. However that being said I'm
> going
> > back to my studies and disengaging from this worthless thread.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > On Apr 30, 2011 6:30 AM, "Darby Weaver" <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I totally agree with you guys - those materials that are half baked or
> > NEVER
> >> materialize are also uncalled for...
> >>
> >> Who remembers buying audio from from one company that was never
> > finished...
> >> even after it was discontinued...
> >>
> >> Who remembers buying video from the came company for labs... apparently
> > not
> >> profitable enough for continuation and so it too was abandoned...
> >>
> >> But wait!!! Only later the same sets of videos re-appear as a "NEW"
> >> product... that can be purchased yet again!
> >>
> >> That's uncalled for...
> >>
> >>
> >> Dude!
> >>
> >> Some of these companies that do this kind of stuff really are uncalled
> for
> >> and if everyone who gets shucked and jived speaks up about it....
> >>
> >> A lot less of us would ever be calling them again.
> >>
> >> But, hey.. that's uncalled for.
> >>
> >>
> >> None of them would ever call for any of the "stuff" they say or do to be
> >> known publicly... that would be uncalled for.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone else need to more about what and why this kind of stuff is
> uncalled
> >> for?
> >>
> >> Look back in the day... we took the *Expert companies at their word
> since
> >> after all they had "expert" in the work and started with "I" so I'm sure
> > in
> >> the back of all of our naive minds... we were collectively thinking...
> if
> >> "I" learn from these "experts" then one day "I" would be an "expert"
> > too...
> >>
> >> Follow the Master
> >> Walk Beside the Master
> >> Be the Master
> >>
> >> The problem was and still is that some of these guys... not all of
> them...
> >> may have never actually worked on a production network at all or never
> > were
> >> "the guy" in the first place and so not all of their well intentioned
> labs
> >> are wholely baked or worse... like that one guy who keeps trying to
> >> undermine an accepted manner of performing a task.... his experiments
> are
> > on
> >> a limited set of equipment - so while what he says may be true for 3-4
> >> devices or even in a small rack... (which in the example of one of the
> >> "MYTH" series is clearly mentioned on Cisco's site by the way)... he's
> >> cluelessly happy thinking he "debunked" a myth or something...
> >>
> >> Others read it, respect the guy for whatever reason, and commit that to
> >> their accepted beliefs without really checking the facts...
> >>
> >> Dis-Service to the community.
> >>
> >> I'd say stuff like that is uncalled for.... totally uncalled for...
> >>
> >>
> >> Truthfully - If I were shopping for a class or a vendor at this
> moment...
> >> I'd shop around... that's really called for.
> >>
> >> Vendors who put people they never heard of or never even attended their
> >> classes bought their products or were totally dis-satisfied with their
> >> products and then using those people and their CCIE numbers quite
> > FALSELY...
> >>
> >> I'd say that is totally uncalled for.
> >>
> >> Check the archives here on GS and use Google to find the slimy "*Expert"
> >> companies who fit the M.O....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Darby
> >>
> >> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Agrred, totally uncalled for :/
> >>> On Apr 29, 2011 10:23 PM, "Ernest McCaleb" <emccaleb_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Uncalled for Darby...
> >>> >
> >>> > Ernest McCaleb #21508
> >>> >
> >>> > - As the diameter of a circle of light increases, so does its
> >>> circumference
> >>> > of darkness. --Albert Einstein
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Darby Weaver <
> darby.weaver_at_gmail.com
> >>> >wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Here's the last segment of the Life with Narbik this week.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> http://darbyslogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/last-day-at-narbiks-bootcamp-1-800-get.html
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I had a thought about some of the training videos (or even classes)
> >>> where
> >>> >> the material/instructor, etc are having difficulty when they don't
> >>> shave,
> >>> >> rehearse, or cannot even troubleshoot 2-4 routers on a toplogy they
> >>> created
> >>> >> or at least should have worked out prior to getting in public in
> front
> >>> of
> >>> >> paying students...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> My advice:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> 1. If you are one of these instructors - GET HELP - Immediately...
> > Call
> >>> >> Narbik (1-800-GET-NARBIK) - It's not too late the class you save may
> > be
> >>> >> your
> >>> >> own.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> 2. If you are a student... ask the offending training company to
> send
> >>> you
> >>> >> Narbik's class instead of theirs for a repeat of the last time they
> > may
> >>> >> have
> >>> >> botched the job (not 100% just a little... every botch costs you
> >>> >> mistakes...)...
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I'm writing this as a bit of a joke...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> However, I've seen videos where well-known and reputable instructors
> >>> have
> >>> >> absolutely no sense of professionalism (yawning, unshaven,
> unprepared
> >>> >> sometimes), make glaring mistakes... (even in CCNA/CCNP level topics
> > as
> >>> a
> >>> >> CCIE no less) and the list goes on and one and on...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I've heard CCIE instructors marvel at Narbik's command retention or
> > even
> >>> >> scold the man for not using slides... they hate it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Now watch carefully as some of the pitifully clueless (who are
> > probably
> >>> >> guilty as charged) get really upset at me again... for their own
> >>> >> inadequacy...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> If this is you... STOP - GET HELP... Call 1-800-GET-NARBIK today!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Don't let another class of students leave wondering how in the hell
> > you
> >>> >> were
> >>> >> going to resolve that problem, why you fast-forwarded the video, or
> >>> worse
> >>> >> never completed the thing... cause of um... "techncial
> > difficulties"....
> >>> >> etc.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> And if you need a class - take a moment and think about it...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Talk to your instructor -ask him/her about the competition and be
> >>> nice...
> >>> >> ask about all of them you care to and then ask them about Narbik and
> >>> what
> >>> >> they are going to do better or at least... the best they can do to
> >>> >> compete... they gotta eat too... and need your dime and support to
> pay
> >>> for
> >>> >> their addiction...
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Guys... you know who you are... it's your turn... I know you are out
> >>> >> there... speak up - you can unicast... some CCIE instructors know
> the
> >>> >> difference.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Darby
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Darby Weaver
> >>> >> Network Engineer
> >>> >> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >> darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
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