Re: OT (Hint: maybe on-topic if you need to need help)

Now some of these guys are going to want examples...

In which case I'd have to go and find a bootleg copy their stuff and post
the download links publicly so everyone interested could could follow
along...

That would be uncalled for. I'll stop short of that.

Hell one of these vendors in question used to rake another one through the
coals over "no arp frame" and the like... that was "uncalled for"... and
that is just one example... you probably know there are lots more examples.

If I use a lot of Narbik's examples just from this past week alone... ouch!
The sound is deafening... That would be uncalled for.

Darby

http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Ernest,
>
> Whatever you do... don't ever tell anyone that has multi-CCIE's about
> something wrong on their gear....
>
> Just don't ever do that... some people have lots of EGO, but absolutely no
> humility -even when you just try to be humble and helpful...
>
> The kind of response I got was uncalled for... and if I ever have to post
> it... it's no wonder things are going badly a company that treats loyal
> customers like that.
>
> That's really uncalled for.
>
>
>
> Darby
>
> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> How much money have you ever spent on materials where the instructors
>> sometimes seem like they have:
>>
>> 1. Not prepared for the material they are presenting?
>> 2. Seem like they have not seen the material or maybe lack a full
>> comprehension of the issue themselves?
>>
>> That's uncalled for... however, it was paid for.
>>
>> What's worse is when owners of these companies insult you personally
>> (yep!) or even cuss you out when they ask for your opinion and you give it
>> them.
>>
>> If you really want to know what's uncalled for - maybe I need to post two
>> threads of emails from either vendor with "EXPERT" in the name...
>>
>> Now that would what's uncalled for... but probably due at this point.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Darby Weaver
>>
>> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Ernest McCaleb <emccaleb_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Uncalled for Darby...
>>>
>>> Ernest McCaleb #21508
>>>
>>> - As the diameter of a circle of light increases, so does its
>>> circumference of darkness. --Albert Einstein
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's the last segment of the Life with Narbik this week.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://darbyslogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/last-day-at-narbiks-bootcamp-1-800-get.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had a thought about some of the training videos (or even classes)
>>>> where
>>>> the material/instructor, etc are having difficulty when they don't
>>>> shave,
>>>> rehearse, or cannot even troubleshoot 2-4 routers on a toplogy they
>>>> created
>>>> or at least should have worked out prior to getting in public in front
>>>> of
>>>> paying students...
>>>>
>>>> My advice:
>>>>
>>>> 1. If you are one of these instructors - GET HELP - Immediately... Call
>>>> Narbik (1-800-GET-NARBIK) - It's not too late the class you save may be
>>>> your
>>>> own.
>>>>
>>>> 2. If you are a student... ask the offending training company to send
>>>> you
>>>> Narbik's class instead of theirs for a repeat of the last time they may
>>>> have
>>>> botched the job (not 100% just a little... every botch costs you
>>>> mistakes...)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm writing this as a bit of a joke...
>>>>
>>>> However, I've seen videos where well-known and reputable instructors
>>>> have
>>>> absolutely no sense of professionalism (yawning, unshaven, unprepared
>>>> sometimes), make glaring mistakes... (even in CCNA/CCNP level topics as
>>>> a
>>>> CCIE no less) and the list goes on and one and on...
>>>>
>>>> I've heard CCIE instructors marvel at Narbik's command retention or even
>>>> scold the man for not using slides... they hate it.
>>>>
>>>> Now watch carefully as some of the pitifully clueless (who are probably
>>>> guilty as charged) get really upset at me again... for their own
>>>> inadequacy...
>>>>
>>>> If this is you... STOP - GET HELP... Call 1-800-GET-NARBIK today!
>>>>
>>>> Don't let another class of students leave wondering how in the hell you
>>>> were
>>>> going to resolve that problem, why you fast-forwarded the video, or
>>>> worse
>>>> never completed the thing... cause of um... "techncial difficulties"....
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> And if you need a class - take a moment and think about it...
>>>>
>>>> Talk to your instructor -ask him/her about the competition and be
>>>> nice...
>>>> ask about all of them you care to and then ask them about Narbik and
>>>> what
>>>> they are going to do better or at least... the best they can do to
>>>> compete... they gotta eat too... and need your dime and support to pay
>>>> for
>>>> their addiction...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Guys... you know who you are... it's your turn... I know you are out
>>>> there... speak up - you can unicast... some CCIE instructors know the
>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>> Darby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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