RE: Peice of ADVICE from EXPERTS , 3 days left for LAB !!

From: Antonio Soares <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:08:08 -0000

Congratulations Scott ! You're the best. So what will be your next victim ?
:)

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
amsoares_at_netcabo.pt

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: domingo, 6 de Fevereiro de 2011 19:51
To: togunsina_at_gmail.com
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Peice of ADVICE from EXPERTS , 3 days left for LAB !!

 I have to do something to shake my brain up every now and then. :)
Thanks!

Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.

CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER

swm_at_emanon.com

Knowledge is power.

Power corrupts.

Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......

On 2/6/11 10:40 AM, Tolulope Ogunsina wrote:

  I noticed a slight change in your signature :)
  I guess that means you are now a Dual JNCIE. Combined with being a Quad
CCIE and a CCDE!
  Congrats!
  Best Regards, Tolulope Ogunsina, CCIE x2 (R&S|Sec)
  
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:01:57
  To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> Reply-To: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
Subject: Re: Peice of ADVICE from EXPERTS , 3 days left for LAB !!
  
  Remember that a "bug in IOS on GNS3" is completely different than a "bug
  in IOS". Things that you are presented with in the lab are
  (intentionally) not brand new technologies.... They've been around for
  a while, and the exams have gone through internal testing with multiple
  people to assure that they do actually work.
  
  Is it possible to trigger a bug they hadn't anticipated? Sure, because
  your ENTIRE config may be different than what they did, and you may do
  one thing that affects another. If you suspect anything like that,
  involve the proctor ASAP. They may tell you to go look at your configs
  again (which typically will tell you that they know what you did wrong
  because they've seen it several times before, and it's self-induced).
  If you still can't find it, let them know (nicely!) why you think it's a
  bug and what you've done. If they agree, they will kick you off your
  rack for a little while and will look at your routers/configs and test
  it. If it is a bug, they'll let you know and you will likely get lost
  time back (if you spent three hours doing this, good luck on that!) but
  if they find it's your problem, you lose the time.
  
  You may also decide to skip something any move on if it's not critical
  (or band-aid it if it is critical) so that you know exactly which points
  you have lost.
  
  That's all part of your time management strategy. But generally
  speaking you SHOULDN'T run into bugs.
  
  Best of luck to you!

  *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
  
  CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
  
  CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
  swm_at_emanon.com
  
  Knowledge is power.
  
  Power corrupts.
  
  Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......

  On 2/6/11 4:46 AM, Asfer Shah wrote:

    Just one query, what do you guys suggest, because everyone is saying
that
    this
    is a BUG in CISCO IOS
    so in that case what should a person do ?
    
    1. Just paste the standard working configs verify the solution one by
one ,and
    come out of the lab.
    2. Do a work around which may deduct the marks because both the
technologies
    don't work together at the same time
    3. ask the proctor ? because he must know the bug , but again he can
make your
    day worst by guiding you into a wrong way ?
    4. Just drop one Section, lets say the internet and dont risk the entire
    
    MULTICAST because of that 0.0.0.0 default route :(

    please reply back since I have less then a week now :(, I hope I don't
    encounter into this situation in the real LAB ?

      From: s_asfar_at_hotmail.com To:
scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com CC: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: No SOLUTION till DATE for this SCNERIO ???? Challenging

    MULTICAST TASK ?? Please ADVICE

      Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:37:15 +0000
      
      Thanks SCOTT,
      Just one query, what do you guys suggest, because everyone is saying
that

    this

      is a BUG in CISCO IOS
      so in that case what should a person do ?
      
      1. Just paste the standard working configs verify the solution one by
one ,
      and come out of the lab.
      2. Do a work around which may deduct the marks because both the

    technologies

      don't work together at the same time
      3. ask the proctor ? because he must know the bug , but again he can
make

    your

      day worst by guiding you into a wrong way ?
      4. Just drop one Section, lets say the internet and dont risk the
entire
      MULTICAST because of that 0.0.0.0 default route :(

      please reply back since I have less then a week now :(, I hope I don't
      encounter into this situation in the real LAB ?

 
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        CC: markom_at_ipexpert.com ;
ccielab_at_groupstudy.com From: scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com
To: s_asfar_at_hotmail.com Subject: Re: No SOLUTION till DATE
for this SCNERIO ???? Challenging

      MULTICAST TASK ?? Please help

        Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:19:57 -0700
        
        Oh, and also:
        
        Best luck with your rapidly approaching lab date!!
        
        ____________________________________________
        There are only 10 types of people in the world:
        Those who understand binary and those who do not...
        
        On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:07 , Scott M Vermillion wrote:

          So I brushed up a little bit on my draft-rosen stuff this
afternoon
          (been nearly three years since I even thought about that mess!)
and
          then had a closer look at your configs. In truth, it will
probably
          take an SP CCIE or SP CCIE candidate to weigh in and help you out
but
          I will be happy to try. At the very least, I still feel very
strong
          in general mcast, if not MDT, specifically.
          
          Are you perchance running this in a Dynamips environment? If so,
I'd
          love to see that .net file. Also, you said you could share
further
          details, which would be most helpful. Probably more so to an SP
type
          than and R&S guy like myself but the more detail you post, the
more
          likely you are to entice someone knowledgeable into the problem!
;-)
          
          ____________________________________________
          There are only 10 types of people in the world:
          Those who understand binary and those who do not...
          
          On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:31 , Asfer Shah wrote:

            Thanks
            Scoottt, I surely will try to check the tutorials but the
problem is
            that Its
            very basic thing which is not coming up ?
            I am trying to run the Multicast in INTRA-AS between my two
sites(R9
            and
            R7/R8) connected via MPLS - VPN's . (R4 is RP and client & R5 is
            SOURCE)
            Everything runs smoothly unless, I introduce the default route
from
            the (R6)
            which is the internet gateway for my PE's of ABC Vpn's.
            
            Whenever the default route is injected my PE outgoing interface
            donot point
            towards the tunnel and starts to follow the 0.0.0.0 source !!
which
            breaks my
            multicast communication and messes everything !
            I can share the details with you even further, I discussed this
            scenerio will
            couple of other CCIE's but somehow no one has managed to answer
my
            solution ?
            thanks
            
            CC: markom_at_ipexpert.com ;
ccielab_at_groupstudy.com From:
scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com To: s_asfar_at_hotmail.com
Subject: Re: No SOLUTION till DATE for this SCNERIO ???? Challenging
            MULTICAST
            TASK ?? Please help
            Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:17:11 -0700
            
            So it looks as if you've got some vendor's full-scale SP lab up
and
            running
            there. Lots of layers to an onion like that which are not going
to
            be readily
            apparent with just a glance over the configs. It's also not
evident
            from your
            text exactly what was working before the introduction of the
default
            route
            came along and broke things. I see you've got a couple of 'ip
igmp
            join-group' commands on your CEs but it's not clear to me what
you
            were
            pinging - and from where - that worked and then later ceased
            working. What
            mcast troubleshooting have you done thus far?
            I try to keep my posts as vendor-neutral as possible but if you
            google
            "multicast troubleshooting" you will find a couple of very, very
good
            tutorials out there. If you follow a logical process of
validating
            all of
            your various control and data plane RPF checks, etc, you are
bound
            to find the
            problem for yourself quickly...
            ____________________________________________There are only 10
types
            of people
            in the world:
            Those who understand binary and those who do not...
            On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:50 , Asfer Shah wrote:
            thanks for the quick Reply, Actually I am appearing in les than
a
            week time
            and I am failing to understand this buG !!
            nothing much I could figure out !!!
            I am hell stuck,since either multcast or Internet will wok at a
            single time
            !!
            
            CE1 is dual homed to PE5 and PE3, we have three GRE (MDT)
tunnels
            between PE2
            , PE 5 and PE3
            thanks

 
|--------------------------
            PE5-----
            -----
                                                    |
            |

 
INT---------PE1--------PE2--------------------------PE3--------CE1
                                  | |
                                  | |
                                 PE4 CE2

              From: markom_at_ipexpert.com Date:
Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:16:40 +0100
              Subject: Re: No SOLUTION till DATE for this SCNERIO ????
Challenging

            MULTICAST TASK ?? Please help

              To: s_asfar_at_hotmail.com CC:
bmcgahan_at_ine.com ; scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com
;

    ccielab_at_groupstudy.com

              ;

            narbikk_at_gmail.com

              Can you please post all the relevant configurations to the
list so
              we
              can actually troubleshoot it? :-)
              
              --
              Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
              Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
              
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              On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 09:03, Asfer Shah
<s_asfar_at_hotmail.com> wrote:

                Hello ,
                I have a Query to which no one have answered so far ??
                
                PE2-PE3 are in AS20 and are MP-iBGP neighbor to each other.
                CE1 and CE2 are two sites connected to PE2 and PE3
respectively
                talking
                through the MPLS VPN cloud.
                The multicast distribution trees are also configured and the
Intra-
                AS
                multicast end-to-end is working smoothly fine between
CE1-CE2.
                
                I have the below topology in which I have a trouble.

                INT---------PE1--------PE2-------PE3--------CE1
                                  | |
                                  | |
                                 PE4 CE2

                Now,I have PE1 in AS 10 which is gateway to the internet and
is
                peering

            with

                PE2 for ipv4 (add-fam) only.
                I have PE4 in (AS30) which is peering with PE1 for both ipv4
and
                vpnv4
                (add-families)
                PE4 is Multihop Mp-eBGP neighbor to both the PE2 and PE3.
                
                PE1 is advertising the internet (0.0.0.0 in vpnv4 add
family) to
                PE4 and

            then

                PE4 is throwing it to PE2 and PE3
                After manipulating the Next-Hop , PE2 and PE3 do watch the
internet

            default

                vpnv4 route 0.0.0.0 coming from PE1 and they do access the
internet

            easily.

                At this point when I check back the multicast between CE1
and
                CE2 , it

            will

                stop working and the traffic is dropped
                The momnet , I remove the 0.0.0.0 route adver in the vpnv4
from
                PE1 , my
                multicast will run perfectly fine.
                
                There is PIM running between PE1 PE2 and PE4 but no solution
to the

            problem

                till date !!
                Can you please help me in this special problem ???

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