Re: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager

I think there's a few things here to consider:

It's still an immature voice system, because they just haven't been doing it
that long. You'll find some features like FAC that may seem minor, and find
out they're a large requirement. I won't try to list these features, as
every company has their own set they deem important.

Also yes, it's funny how many other IP PBX manufacture's started out on
Windows platforms and have migrated away because of reliability (Cisco
included).

If you're using RTAudio codecs in a enterprise WAN, have fun trying to do
CAC with a dynamic codec as well.

Be ready to bring in a number of third party products to help fill out their
portfolio. Contact center being the big, important one.

I'm not a hugely informed OCS/Lync guy, but these are the points I would
think about. From a pricing perspective I hear it's not "free" anymore, but
it's still 'sticky' when you consider the bundling and software maintenance.

-nick

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:35 PM, John Haddad <loserboy3000_at_hotmail.com>wrote:

> thanks a lot Joe for the feedback....
> one point to say:
>
> MS will be hosted on Windows machines which can be effected by virus easily
> ===>call manager won also :)
>
>
>
> > From: joe_at_affirmedsystems.com
> > To: loserboy3000_at_hotmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:57:18 +0000
> >
> > You know something John?
> >
> > So save 60% of the costs....
> >
> > I think I would go with Microsoft if I was your boss.
> >
> > 1. Do you need special codecs?
> >
> > 2. Third party apps do - many lawfirms are already using FEAC with MS OCS
> 2007 R2.
> >
> > 3. MS has contact center, Team Viewer and Roundtable which are FAR better
> than webex...
> > Please read http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/41653
> >
> > 4. I think you need to read up on Microsoft a little more -
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb894539%28office.12%29.aspx
> >
> > The Cisco product is great for very rich companies that don't want the
> hastle of co-mingling the Server and the Voice worlds - but any sane
> company
> would use the
> > MS solution for no other reason than $$$.. 400 users with UCM is about
> $250,000 (not including PoE switches)
> >
> > I just priced this out in November 2010.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> John
> Haddad
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:41 AM
> > To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: microsoft lync 2010 Vs Call manager
> >
> > Hi to everyone,
> >
> > i am searing since a week for a good reason to convenience our management
> to
> > go with call manager instead of Microsoft Solution, but i couldn't the
> only
> > thing which i found is the following
> >
> > 1-MS doesn't support special type of video codex
> > 2- MS doesn't support the Forced Authorization Code
> > 3-MS doesn't offer contact center solution, and also webex
> > 4-MS solution is layer 7 application which deals with voice like any
> other
> > programs it will not treat it as priority traffic !!!
> >
> > On the other hand
> > MS will give us
> > 1- unlimited number of softphones which will reduce the cost of the
> comparison
> > a lot
> > 2-MS will support Voice messaging, auto attended feature as well
> >
> > we are planning to go with 400 users, but till now i cannot convince the
> > management and convince myself regarding MS product.
> >
> > If you can help me to judge which product is better and why that will be
> > great.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thx,
> >
> >
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