Re: Passed the lab, some tips: "a week before the lab".

That should be great starting point.

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>wrote:

> does anyone wish to share their Anki personal deck?
>
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle-
> CCNP, CCSP, CCDP, MCSE
> http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com/
> ________________________________
> From: Artem Nedoshepa
> <artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com>
> To: Groupstudy <davidbass570_at_gmail.com>;
> "<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Mon,
> December 13, 2010 9:12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Passed the lab, some tips: "a week
> before the lab".
>
> It took me 12 month to build my Anki deck. When I started in
> January I was
> putting like 20 cards per lab, whatever is new for your or there
> is a
> "trick" that you won't remember -- must go into Anki.
> Later I started
> using screenshots from the questions/scenarios/docs, it
> makes the card
> readable. (I mean imagine you have 4 bgp ASs and the
> questions is asking
> something about it, it's hard to "draw" the ASs in text.
> Also you remember
> those "Friday's puzzle" from Narbik, guess what, it's in
> my Anki, we're just
> humans and you can't keep everything in your head. When
> I wake up I make my
> Yerba Mate (it's a kind of tea) and load the Anki deck,
> my morning starts not
> with coffee, it starts with SRS :). Unless you're
> a genius who can remember
> something just looking at it once - SRS is you
> best friend.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 13,
> 2010 at 9:57 PM, Groupstudy <davidbass570_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Congrats, and
> some very good ideas! It's been a LONG time (2006) since I
> > last tried the
> lab, so have been wondering how to go about the TS part.
> > Your suggestions
> will help for sure.
> >
> > I've considered using anki for flash cards as well,
> but have never used the
> > program. Where did you get the cards from?
> >
> >
> Thanks,
> >
> > David
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:03 PM,
> Artem Nedoshepa <artem.nedoshepa_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > First of all I want
> to say thank you guys, all and each of you
> > contributed
> > > in my number:
> CCIE#27705
> > >
> > > I'd like to share my "story".
> > >
> > > 1.5 months ago I took
> the lab in RTP and failed the TS but passed the
> > > configs. I was so
> confident about the TS that I thought I'd have an hour
> > > spare time. When I
> got to the 3rd ticket I realized that I'm going to
> > need
> > > that "spare
> hour". During the TS it felt like the clock was going 1.5
> > times
> > > faster,
> no bathroom, no going to a breakroom. (in RTP the bathroom is
> > kind
> > > of
> far, not like in SJC - across the hole.) The config section took me
> > over
> >
> > 5.5 hours, I had about 20 minutes to verify. All this 6 hours I was
> >
> worried
> > > that I had only 8 tkt solved and most-likely some of them are
> incorrect,
> > but
> > > I was trying to stay as positive as I could be. On the
> plane home
> > overall
> > > feeling was that I failed both sections, because I
> didn't have enough
> > time
> > > to verify the configs and not enough tickets
> solved. The next day I got
> > the
> > > results and I was ready to see "FAIL".
> >
> >
> > > I booked the next attempt in 6 weeks in SJC since the RTP was booked
> >
> until
> > > February. I took it easy for a week or so, than started building a
> TS
> > > scenarios with 30+ devices and all possible trouble tickets. A friend
> of
> > > mine Charlie (who passed as well) and I used the approach : "To become
> a
> > > criminal you must think like a criminal". You'll be surprised how much
> > you
> > > can learn by "breaking" stuff for your buddy. So what we did is we
> made a
> > > .net topology in dynamips with 30 + routers, put some preconfigs
> (basic
> > > routing, BGP, MPLS etc..), we also included almost all possible "ip
> > > services" and other "stuff" that you see on the blueprint. Each of us
> >
> made
> > > 2 full TS scenarios for each other. By a "full TS scenarios" I mean
> 16+
> > > tickets, and we made the tickets a bit harder that we experienced in
> the
> > > lab. A week before the lab each of us had 2 "Super-sessions", 2 hours
> TS
> > + 6
> > > hours configs, (let your friend to pick the lab for your,
> whichever
> > vendor
> > > you use). These "super-sessions" with harder that in
> reality TS helped a
> > > lot (we did it twice with one day delay). I'd
> recommend not to touch the
> > > keyboard 2 days before the lab.
> > >
> > > SJC,
> the TS session started, 10 minutes passed 2 or 3 tickets done, power
> > >
> outage :), believe it or not, I didn't worried at all, I went and made
> > some
> > > tea (another tip, don't drink coffee if you don't usually drink it, it
> >
> > WON"T make you smarter/faster), went to the bathroom. It took the
> > proctors
> > > 20 minutes to fix the issue, we got lucky - the configs were saved but
> I
> >
> > verified each solved ticket, just to make sure. I finished the TS with 30
> >
> > minutes left. The clock was going 0.8 times slower this time, everything
> >
> was
> > > like in a slow motion, I don't know maybe because our TS was too
> hardcore
> > > than the real one. The config part was fun, went to the proctors
> like 20
> > > times, it wasn't clear, looks like somebody from another planet
> wrote it.
> > > (my first attempt the lab was very clear, I went to the proctor
> only 3-4
> > > times). Before going to the proctor made 3 different versions of
> the
> > > question in your head and be prepared to hear "I can't tell you it",
> "do
> > > what the question says". Take a moment and really think how to
> rephrase
> > the
> > > same question, show the proctor that you know the "stuff"
> and you just
> > need
> > > some small details to make the right decision.
> > >
> > >
> For preparation I used 4x3550 and dynamips, I made a little blog about it
> > >
> ccie4you.info , for stuff that don't work on 3550 or Dynamips rented a
> > real
> > > rack a couple of times. Use SRS twice a day, I used Anki, so far it's
> the
> > > best I've seen. (My anki deck has like 1300 cards).
> > >
> > >
> > > Again,
> thank you all.
> > >
> > >
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