Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this week from Scott Morris on 2010-11-23 (Ccielab archives 11/2010)

From: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:23:09 -0500

Now, I certainly don't want to get into a mathematical debate with you
because I know I would lose, and most likely not even understand why....

BUT.... If you measure something in a negative sense, wouldn't it still
have a "length" that is an absolute value even if the placement of it is
in the negative?

For example, a length of -5 to -1 is "longer" than from 1 to 3.

Shifting planes, however doesn't change a value of length (difference
between two numbers). But anyway, I haven't had anywhere near enough
alcohol to keep up much beyond that. ;)

Scott

On 11/23/10 8:37 PM, Petr Lapukhov wrote:
> Nice try, but I have a completely imaginary answer in my head :) Since it is
> imaginary, its vector norm (length) is below zero. Thus, it wins as having
> the shortest (negative) length!
>
> Petr
>
> 2010/11/23 Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>
>> I would like to point out that up to this point there was no response
>> from IPexpert. We win on technicality.
>>
>> --
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>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>
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>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 21:16, Petr Lapukhov
>> <petr_at_internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>> Yes sir I did, the doctor has been then hospitalized to a mental clinic
>> :)
>>> 2010/11/23 Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Petr,
>>>>
>>>> How long have you had this? Have you seen a doctor?
>>>>
>>>> hahahaha Just kidding...
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Petr Lapukhov <
>>>> petr_at_internetworkexpert.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> That's just normal Russian talk. No wonder people avoid us :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/11/23 Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you guys talk ASCIIIII or EBCDIC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Adel Abouchaev <
>>>> adel_at_netmasterclass.net
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Petr,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B B B B First, accept my congratulations on achieving entropy
>> level 0
>>>> in
>>>>>>> your data :) Thus said, however, the volume of information in it
>> has
>>>>>>> diminished to the same value too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B B B B Here is the better one: [0-1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B B B B Cardinal number of this set is above aleph-one, hence
>> you can
>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> find an irrational number on this interval that, converted to hex,
>>>> will
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> the answer to all the question asked here :) So really, the answer
>> to
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> questions is on the tip of the needle, always been and will always
>> be.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adel Abouchaev, CCIE# 12037, CISSP, MCSE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Technical Support Engineer
>>>>>>> Netmasterclass LLC, Cisco Learning Partner
>>>>>>> RFC821: adel_at_netmasterclass.net
>>>>>>> E.164: +18886772669
>>>>>>> HTTP: www.netmasterclass.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>>>>> Petr
>>>>>>> Lapukhov
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:46 AM
>>>>>>> To: Narbik Kocharians
>>>>>>> Cc: Scott Morris; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this week
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, too bad guys! I did not answer the question, and therefore my
>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>> zero-length was the shortest! :D Smells like Zen, but hey, it does
>> not
>>>>>>> break
>>>>>>> the rules!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Petr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/11/23 Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shoot i guess i failed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hehehehe... B Great short answer, but there were two parts to
>> the
>>>>>>>>> question! B BBBBZZZZZTTTTT. B ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/23/10 11:19 AM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> STP is a protocol.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:49 AM, --Hammer-- <
>> bhmccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> You aren't INE.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You aren't IPE.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You aren't 100% in bed with Narbik. (No offense Narbik)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You are a ghost. An Apparition that floats in and out of the
>>>>>> forums
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> randomly shows up to teach overseas. B Every once in a while
>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> physical
>>>>>>>>>>> form shows up at Networkers. Or Live. Or whatever they call
>> it
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --Hammer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I was a normal American nerd."
>>>>>>>>>>> -Jack Herer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm_at_emanon.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:38 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: --Hammer--
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: 'Radioactive Frog'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>>>>>>> B Subject: Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this
>> week
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> HA! B Why am I in purgatory? B :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
>> Provider)
>>>>>> #4713,
>>>>>>>>>>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Knowledge is power.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Power corrupts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/23/10 9:48 AM, --Hammer-- wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>> B B B B You are in purgatory. Your answer, while probably
>> the
>>>>>>> shortest,
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot qualify. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --Hammer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I was a normal American nerd."
>>>>>>>>>>> -Jack Herer
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com]
>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott Morris
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:07 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Radioactive Frog
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this week
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B Prevents loops. B And it's on by default.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Can't get much shorter than that!)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
>> Provider)
>>>>>> #4713,
>>>>>>>>>>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Knowledge is power.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Power corrupts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/23/10 7:09 AM, Radioactive Frog wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B Which vendor is the best ?
>>>>>>>>>>> B You can find it out easily with a quick test by asking a
>>>>>> question
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> B how different vendor explain it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B So here is the question to all vendor/instructors:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B Question: What is spanning tree and how do we configure
>> this
>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>>>> B on Cisco 3560 switch.
>>>>>>>>>>> B Explain this from the ccie lab prospectus only.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B A vendor who comes up with the "shortest"
>> answer/explanation
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> B the best :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B You can trust their work book.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B so hurry up!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Robert Hosford
>>>>>>>>>>> B <mailto:rhosford_at_certifiednets.com> <
>>>> rhosford_at_certifiednets.com
>>>>>>>>>>> B wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B I used the NetMaster program myself. Val hurt my brain.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> B B From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:
>> nobody_at_groupstudy.com]
>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>> B B Behalf Of Scott Morris
>>>>>>>>>>> B B Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> B B To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>>>>>>>> B B Subject: Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this
>> week
>>>>>>>>>>> B B Yeah, I didn't use 'em either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
>>>>>> Provider)
>>>>>>>>>>> B B #4713,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B swm_at_emanon.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B Knowledge is power.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B Power corrupts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B On 11/20/10 12:20 PM, CCIE KID wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> B B > Marko u r a one unique guy who dont need any kind of
>>>>>> training
>>>>>>>>>>> B B or any
>>>>>>>>>>> B B > kind of workbooks U r the ultimate best in teaching
>> ccie
>>>>>>>>>>> B B Hemanth
>>>>>>>>>>> B B > better u watch ur words There are guys in the
>> universe who
>>>>>>>>>>> B B didnt use
>>>>>>>>>>> B B > INE and passed CCIE :) :)
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >
>>>>>>>>>>> B B > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Marko Milivojevic
>>>>>>>>>>> B <mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >>> There is no one in this universe who has B appeared
>> for
>>>>>> the B
>>>>>>>>>>> B B CCIE
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >>> Lab
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >> without
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >>> solving INE Vol 1 and Vol 2
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >> I did.
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >> --
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >>
>>>>>>>>>>> B B >> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
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