Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this week

From: Petr Lapukhov <petr_at_internetworkexpert.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:55:22 -0800

This depends on interpretation, like we previously discussed on IM :) Not
answering the question means giving a full continuum of possibilities to
choose from (zen style), which yields a diverging entropy integral and
effective information level of infinity :)

As for [0-1] cardinality, you are touching the fearsome continuum
hypothesis. Furthermore, saying that cardinality of [0-1] (continuum) if
above aleph1 is not correct in Kantor's set theory (where c=2^N0 = N1) -
remember, the c-hypothesis is independent of ZFC axiom set. Still, [0-1]
remain a continuum, so theoretically you are correct about being able to
extract any information out of it, though this assumption contradicts
intuitionistic (constructive) logic as a procedure for obtaining such an
answer could not be defined in a finite set of steps.

Seriously, this is getting much more fun than good old STP :) Too bad they
never came with the Steiner Tree Protocol!

Petr

2010/11/23 Adel Abouchaev <adel_at_netmasterclass.net>

> Petr,
>
> First, accept my congratulations on achieving entropy level 0 in
> your data :) Thus said, however, the volume of information in it has
> diminished to the same value too.
>
> Here is the better one: [0-1]
>
> Cardinal number of this set is above aleph-one, hence you can always
> find an irrational number on this interval that, converted to hex, will
> have
> the answer to all the question asked here :) So really, the answer to all
> questions is on the tip of the needle, always been and will always be.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adel Abouchaev, CCIE# 12037, CISSP, MCSE
>
> Technical Support Engineer
> Netmasterclass LLC, Cisco Learning Partner
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Petr
> Lapukhov
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:46 AM
> To: Narbik Kocharians
> Cc: Scott Morris; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this week
>
> Yeah, too bad guys! I did not answer the question, and therefore my answer
> zero-length was the shortest! :D Smells like Zen, but hey, it does not
> break
> the rules!
>
> Petr
>
> 2010/11/23 Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>
> > Shoot i guess i failed.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
> >
> > > hehehehe... Great short answer, but there were two parts to the
> > > question! BBBBZZZZZTTTTT. ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/23/10 11:19 AM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> > > > STP is a protocol.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:49 AM, --Hammer-- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> You aren't INE.
> > > >>
> > > >> You aren't IPE.
> > > >>
> > > >> You aren't 100% in bed with Narbik. (No offense Narbik)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> You are a ghost. An Apparition that floats in and out of the forums
> > and
> > > >> then
> > > >> randomly shows up to teach overseas. Every once in a while your
> > > physical
> > > >> form shows up at Networkers. Or Live. Or whatever they call it this
> > > year.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --Hammer
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "I was a normal American nerd."
> > > >> -Jack Herer
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm_at_emanon.com]
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:38 AM
> > > >> To: --Hammer--
> > > >> Cc: 'Radioactive Frog'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this week
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> HA! Why am I in purgatory? :)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > > >>
> > > >> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > > >>
> > > >> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> > > >>
> > > >> swm_at_emanon.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Knowledge is power.
> > > >>
> > > >> Power corrupts.
> > > >>
> > > >> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 11/23/10 9:48 AM, --Hammer-- wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Scott,
> > > >> You are in purgatory. Your answer, while probably the
> shortest,
> > > >> cannot qualify. :)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --Hammer
> > > >>
> > > >> "I was a normal American nerd."
> > > >> -Jack Herer
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > >> Scott Morris
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:07 AM
> > > >> To: Radioactive Frog
> > > >> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this week
> > > >>
> > > >> Prevents loops. And it's on by default.
> > > >>
> > > >> ;)
> > > >>
> > > >> (Can't get much shorter than that!)
> > > >>
> > > >> Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > > >>
> > > >> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > > >>
> > > >> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> > > >>
> > > >> swm_at_emanon.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Knowledge is power.
> > > >>
> > > >> Power corrupts.
> > > >>
> > > >> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> > > >>
> > > >> On 11/23/10 7:09 AM, Radioactive Frog wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Which vendor is the best ?
> > > >> You can find it out easily with a quick test by asking a question
> and
> > > >> how different vendor explain it.
> > > >>
> > > >> So here is the question to all vendor/instructors:
> > > >>
> > > >> Question: What is spanning tree and how do we configure this
> feature
> > > >> on Cisco 3560 switch.
> > > >> Explain this from the ccie lab prospectus only.
> > > >>
> > > >> A vendor who comes up with the "shortest" answer/explanation will
> be
> > > >> the best :)
> > > >>
> > > >> You can trust their work book.
> > > >>
> > > >> so hurry up!
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Robert Hosford
> > > >> <mailto:rhosford_at_certifiednets.com> <rhosford_at_certifiednets.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I used the NetMaster program myself. Val hurt my brain.
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> > > >> Behalf Of Scott Morris
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:44 PM
> > > >> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this week
> > > >>
> > > >> Yeah, I didn't use 'em either.
> > > >>
> > > >> ;)
> > > >>
> > > >> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> > > >> #4713,
> > > >>
> > > >> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > > >>
> > > >> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> > > >>
> > > >> swm_at_emanon.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Knowledge is power.
> > > >>
> > > >> Power corrupts.
> > > >>
> > > >> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> > > >>
> > > >> On 11/20/10 12:20 PM, CCIE KID wrote:
> > > >> > Marko u r a one unique guy who dont need any kind of training
> > > >> or any
> > > >> > kind of workbooks U r the ultimate best in teaching ccie
> > > >> Hemanth
> > > >> > better u watch ur words There are guys in the universe who
> > > >> didnt use
> > > >> > INE and passed CCIE :) :)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Marko Milivojevic
> > > >> <mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> There is no one in this universe who has B appeared for the B
> > > >> CCIE
> > > >> >>> Lab
> > > >> >> without
> > > >> >>> solving INE Vol 1 and Vol 2
> > > >> >> I did.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> > > >> >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
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