Re: My most excellent Bootcamp experience this week

now that was a BIG mail by Narbik one of the best instructors in market,
 hemanth every one has different styles/approach and pesonal prefrences.

when some one praises a vendor / instructor which is not YOUR preffered one
, just dont jump in to praise ur vendor which kinda defeat sprit of GS

personally i m too ine fan but at the same time respect all MAJOR
competetors like narbik , ipx , ccbootcamp . because they all help ME clear
my doubts in GS , extreemly useful blogs and free vlecture series.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks to everyone, I appreciate all your comments. It was a TOUGH three
> weeks. I conducted an End-to-End (12 days /162 hours) and the same day took
> a 22 hour flight to Europe. I got there on Sunday night and the next day we
> started again.
>
>
> 2beone, Vitali, and the others . thanks very much for your comments. I
> truly
> appreciate it. It is a great pleasure to read all these comments. When your
> customers/students attend your class and write positive comments, it
> makes you feel GR8. I always try to give my best and I think that every
> student deserves the best. I can empathize with my students. I have been
> down the same road.
>
>
> I love what I do. I do not see it as a competition. I don't even think
> about
> the other vendors or their products simply because I have a different
> philosophy, a totally different philosophy and mine does NOT jive with any
> of them. When I see the light go on in my students eyes, it gives me a
> rush. No matter what time of the day, it gives me a boost of energy like a
> shot of red bull in my blood (and I pay for it the next day .hahahaha).
>
>
>
> I am sure there are bunch of other GR8 vendors and instructors out there;
> NONE of you mentioned Bob Sinclair or Bruce C. But we all have preferences
> and that is the beauty of this game/world. I have NOT used INE products
> either and have NOT even seen them, not even interested, because our
> philosophy is very different. From time to time a student asks a question
> about one of their tasks and I ONLY answer the student s question. They
> must all be GR8 or else they would not last this long. We all have
> something different to offer.
>
>
>
> I like to thank Wayne Lawson for his rack support. Last week we conducted a
> CCIE Expo in Europe, conducting Security and Routing & Switching Boot
> Camps.
> Micronics does not have *Security racks* and we needed to partner with a
> vendor and use their racks.
>
> Last time we conducted a CCIE Security Boot Camp, we contacted this
> particular vendor which is based in US. This specific vendor did every
> trick
> in the book to make life hard for my instructor (I will not mention their
> name), so I called Wayne Lawson and he was more than willing and happy to
> help. We DID NOT HAVE A SINGLE PROBLEM. These guys are professionals and
> more than willing to help. Thanks mate, you are a true pro. BTW, our
> Security Workbook is based on their topology, so for people that have
> purchased our new Security workbook, please contact IPX and they will take
> care of you.
>
>
>
> HEMANTH, things change, some vendors get better as time goes on and some
> get
> worst as time goes on. Some bite more then they can chew and some don t.
> But
> let me tell you the truth and some people can not handle it but *too bad*
> because with me, you ONLY get the truth. The truth is:
>
>
>
> *#1:*
>
> INE and their owner and most if not all of the famous instructors that you
> see here are famous because of Wayne. They all started or worked for this
> guy, he is the reason most of them are known (except maybe 2 that i can
> think of). He taught them the business and he made them who they are, or
> with SOME whom they are *NOT*.
>
>
>
> * **#2:*
>
> Group Study is what made us all. DO NOT believe anything anyone tells you.
> NO FORUM out there has been directly or indirectly responsible for the
> success of so many CCIEs or *Vendors* out there. If GS did not exist, NONE
> OF US WOULD HAVE.
>
>
>
> Once again, I like to thank all of you for your comments. I only did what
> you paid me to do. I promise to constantly improve the lectures/workbooks
> in
> my company. I have already made some changes to the boot camp, its ONLY
> about three hours of more lecture, I hope this makes it a tick better.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Don t forget PUZZLES
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:41 AM, John <2beone_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Don't say things you can't proof because it makes you look bad.
> > Do you know for instance who was working for ipexpert before ine was
> > founded?
> >
> > Second it is not the vendor who does it because at the end of the day it
> > boils
> > down to the instructor. So a vendor is as good as its current
> instructors.
> >
> > With all respect but your view of the would is pretty narrow when you say
> > things like that.
> >
> > Take care
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 20 nov. 2010, at 18:05, HEMANTH RAJ <hemanthrj_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > For me INE rocks buddy. The way they teach the concepts makes it
> > ridiculously easy and it also expands our thinking horizons
> > >
> > > Narbik is also a good teacher but INE's level of teaching and and their
> > workbooks are the best in the market
> > >
> > > There is no one in this universe who has appeared for the CCIE Lab
> > without
> > solving INE Vol 1 and Vol 2
> > >
> > > Continue the gud work INE expecting more products from u guyss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:49 PM, John <2beone_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It all boils down to the commitment of the one giving the bootcamp. The
> > next
> > > most important thing is the didactical experience of this person and
> the
> > last
> > > most important one is the knowledge of this person. This is the only
> > bootcamp
> > > I have been where the one giving it excels in all three and than some.
> I
> > think
> > > we as engineers deserve this.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On 20 nov. 2010, at 12:37, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I never been in any bootcamp but looks like I must go in one to get
> an
> > > experience of what's bootcamps are like...
> > > > Looks like they do kind magic in 5 days.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Vitali Aivazov
> > <vitali.aivazov_at_gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I had an opportunity and big pleasure to participate in Narbik's
> > bootcamp
> > > > this week and indeed, I got the same feeling as 2beone wrote. I can
> say
> > > that
> > > > Narbik helps you to think out-of-box which pushes you to dig deeper
> > into
> > > the
> > > > technology and consequently understand it on much deeper level
> perhaps
> > even
> > > > deeper than the lab exam itself which can only benefit you. I saw
> that
> > > > teaching method is focused not only on getting the exam passed but on
> > > > becoming an expert of what you do, meaning to build solid foundation
> of
> > how
> > > > IOS works and predicting it.
> > > >
> > > > BTW I haven't laughed so much since long long time, I was completely
> > black
> > > > holed in vrf :)))
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > > Yours Friendly,
> > > HP HEMANTH RAJ
> >
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