RE: How to stack 2 3750 switches?

While supporting subordinates ability to do everything by themselves, asking serves dual purpose, usually: to not to deviate where not supposed to, and to not to be too much self confident.

Psychologically, some people will just stop asking questions from Mr. Web Redirector which obviously goes again the team spirit and HR rules in most major companies. Someone will eventually panic and go to the manager, of if you are the manager - expect a call from the corporate ombudsmen :)

Of course, there is a cap to the number of questions to not to make the subordinates a proxy between you and the job to do.

To my best knowledge, the subject is too subjective and heavily relies on constraints - how quickly things should be done, the level of knowledge of people, etc. Just sending everyone to google.com all the time is not the ultimate solution of all related problems.

Adel.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Marko Milivojevic
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:16 AM
To: Shaughn Smith
Cc: Tyson Scott; Cisco Fanatic; bhmccie_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: How to stack 2 3750 switches?

I used to work with a senior engineer who would answer my every
question with "cisco.com". It used to infuriate me, but years after,
I'm grateful since he taught me how to find stuff by myself. This was
in year 2 BG [Before Google].

He's on this list and responds to name Sasa :-)

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On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 07:00, Shaughn Smith <maniac.smg_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Tyson i couldnt agree with you more.
>
> What makes it more scary is that "engineers" out in the field have the same
> mentality. They would rather ask a senior engineer to help them than
> actually figure it out by themselves. When they come to me with simple
> issues i merely tell them "Use the tools you have available to you to figure
> it out". 9 times out of 10 i get a blank stare back and then i suggest
> Google, Cisco.com etc. Still takes them 2 days to do it but they eventually
> figure it out for themselves.
>
> When i was in the junior ranks i would only ask the senior guys for help
> when it was really really warranted. Seems those days are gone
> unfortunately.
>
> P4S generation
>
>
> CCIE # 23962 (SP)
>
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>
>> Cisco Fanatic,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sorry to pick on you. B There is no question that my comment is rude.
>> And I guess I am picking on you. B My point is some of these questions are
>> SO
>> basic that someone has to come back and say "come on".
>>
>>
>>
>> Even a Google search of "cisco 3750 stack" or "connecting two 3750
>> switches"
>> or "stack two 3750's" which is exactly your initial question would give you
>> exact documentation on how to do this.
>>
>>
>>
>> If we all sit here and spoon feed everyone; you guys are never going to
>> learn. B There is the old Chinese proverb "Give a man a fish and you feed
>> him
>> for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime". B If you
>> are
>> not willing to take the time to search, test, and read; then this is the
>> wrong forum and someone needs to be the jerk to tell you. B This forum is
>> for
>> CCIE questions, this question doesn't even touch CCNA level knowledge.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can hate me as much as you want but I hope instead of it ruining your
>> night it challenges you to seek B more of this stuff out on your own and
>> helps you become a CCIE. B You can't call yourself Cisco Fanatic and not be
>> willing to dig some of this stuff out on your own.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Cisco Fanatic [mailto:ebay_products_at_hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:18 PM
>> To: tscott_at_ipexpert.com; bhmccie_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: How to stack 2 3750 switches?
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW I know how to tie my shoes.
>> I don't think it is necessary to reply to every email and be sarcastic.
>> It's a learning group and people who don't have basic decency and courtesy
>> should not respond.
>> So, please keep your fingers off your keyboard if you can't answer
>> straight.
>>
>> Thanks to all who responded.
>>
>> -Yuri
>>
>> > From: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>> > To: bhmccie_at_gmail.com; ebay_products_at_hotmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: RE: RE: How to stack 2 3750 switches?
>> > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:32:34 -0400
>> >
>> > Take one or two stacking cables. Connect them to the back of the
>> switches.
>> > Viola.
>> >
>> > If you can tie your shoes this task should be well within grasp.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> > --Hammer--
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:27 PM
>> > To: 'Cisco Fanatic'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: OT: RE: How to stack 2 3750 switches?
>> >
>> > Cisco Fanatic,
>> > Please mark threads that are clearly off topic as OT in the subject.
>> >
>> >
>> > Did you look on Cisco? I don't even think you need a CCO account for this
>> > kind of research.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --Hammer
>> >
>> > "I was a normal American nerd."
>> > -Jack Herer
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> > Cisco Fanatic
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 1:09 PM
>> > To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: How to stack 2 3750 switches?
>> >
>> > I have seen lot of documentations as how to stack 2 3750s switches. I am
>> > looking for a step-by-step instructions on how to stack 2 3750 switches.
>> > Really,
>> > appreciate if someone who has done it before and have hands-on
>> > experience (in lab or production environment) can direct me. Thanks,Yuri
>> >
>> >
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