Re: Failed - October 8.

This is just my two cents here but was told in the CIERS1 class that if you
have
to use the DocCD for anything before "the golden moment" (meaning having
all L2,
IGP and BGP configured), you are not going to have a good exam
experience.

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From: Jeffrey Pazahanick <jeffpaz_at_gmail.com>
To: "Poplawski, James" <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com>
Cc: CCIE Group Study
<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 4:11:50 PM
Subject: Re:
Failed - October 8.

As you go through the technologies, you will learn which
is
proprietary and which is a standard.

In the case of frame-relay
encapsulation, you know that there are 2
types of frame-relay encapsulation;
cisco and ietf.
So if you see something like the word industry standard,
RFC-based,
RFC1490, etc, you know it's ietf type.
If you see the wording
proprietary, cisco-specific, etc, you know it's cisco.
If it says use the
default type, maybe you already know that's cisco.
either way, all of the
above is quickly referenced in the
encapsulation frame-relay section of the
DocCD.

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Poplawski, James
<jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
> Going through the material enough
will have it warped into your head enough.
>
> I would expect some vendors
beef up their Frame Relay and IPv6 Multicast
>training as I could use some
more in-depth practice with both.
>
> Thanks,
> JB
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
> Sent:
Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:35 AM
> To: Poplawski, James
> Cc: Narbik
Kocharians; Muzammil Malick; Oskar; --Hammer--; CCIE Group Study
> Subject:
Re: Failed - October 8.
>
> HA! There you go! Wabbit spanning-tree :-).
>
>
So, anything else you need help remembering?
>
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE
#18427
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>
> FREE CCIE training:
http://bit.ly/vLecture
>
> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> Telephone:
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> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at
16:20, Poplawski, James
> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
>> 802.1w
as in Rapid or Bugs Bunny fans wabbit!
>>
>> First attempt I freaked out, I
said 802.1w, I'm 95% sure it's rapid, but I
>>better double-check.
>>
>>
-----Original Message-----
>> From: Marko Milivojevic
[mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:13 AM
>>
To: Narbik Kocharians
>> Cc: Poplawski, James; Muzammil Malick; Oskar;
--Hammer--; CCIE Group Study
>> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>>
>> That's
a constant. You just remember 802.1 and then add the letter "s"
>> as in mSt,
or "w" as in "Whatwasitagain"? ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>
>> FREE CCIE training:
http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>
>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
>> Telephone:
+1.810.326.1444
>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at
16:11, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hahaha
>>>
>>> Don't
forget that they both have 802 in them as well.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010
at 9:04 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
Well... it's actually very easy to remember. MST (802.1s) *requires*
>>>> use
of 802.1w. MST has "s" in it, the other one doesn't ;-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>
>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>>>
>>>> Mailto:
markom_at_ipexpert.com
>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>> Web:
http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 15:50, Poplawski,
James
>>>> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
>>>> > Thanks for your
advice.
>>>> >
>>>> > The other one is a great way, but when you hit RSTP
(802.1w) versus MSTP
>>>> > (802.1s), you freak out and double-check.
>>>> >
>>>> > Using the DOCCD and browsing the WAN-Frame Relay section you're able to
>>>> > do a search (Ctrl+F) and search 1490.
>>>> >
>>>> > Hope this helps,
>>>> > JB
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: Muzammil
Malick [mailto:malickmuz_at_gmail.com]
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010
10:43 AM
>>>> > To: Oskar
>>>> > Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Poplawski, James;
--Hammer--; CCIE Group Study
>>>> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>>>> >
>>>> > James
>>>> >
>>>> > Going back to your original email. As someone who
has been there and
>>>> > experienced the same issues as you, I would say that
regarding small
>>>> > things such as RFC values and 802.xyz issues, its just
one of those
>>>> > things that you just have to nail.
>>>> >
>>>> > For me
this has always been a non issue because when i took the lab I
>>>> > had to
do OEQs so I ended up learning all these things inside out
>>>> > anyways!! B
So it doesn't hurt to learn them because
>>>> > in the past people were
required to learn them.
>>>> >
>>>> > Also what I would say is that a lot of
the stuff that Cisco throws in
>>>> > is along the lines of "Use this type of
encapsulation e.g RFC 1490
>>>> > they are really saying, don't use the Cisco
method or do use the Cisco
>>>> > method. If you are having problems
remembering all the details just
>>>> > remind yourself that you can either
use "cisco" or "the other one"
>>>> > Then later on when you have some spare
time you can go back and check
>>>> > that you are using the right
encapsulation.
>>>> > Im not saying this is a strict rule you should follow,
just if you are
>>>> > having problems remembering stuff.
>>>> >
>>>> > Its
also great that you passed Troubleshooting because that will give
>>>> > you
the confidence to nail TS in the future.
>>>> >
>>>> > Also the great thing is
that you know where your problems lie. Some
>>>> > people come out bemused
because they thought they had nailed it and
>>>> > dont have a clue where they
went wrong. Take heart from your position
>>>> > and move on and nail it
>>>>
>
>>>> > Good luck mate.
>>>> >
>>>> > On 20 October 2010 16:06, Oskar
<xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>> >> Marko,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am not saying
anything about IPE books. I use other vendor materials
>>>> >> but I
>>>> >>
prefer not to mention the name. My point is that if I MUST know RFC #s
>>>> >>
to
>>>> >> understand the question than I expect the workbook to work that way
>>>> >> too. My
>>>> >> workbook will not help me in that regard.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>> Now, what are RFCs to know ?
>>>> >> Is there such list so I can type it in
mnemosyne
>>>> >> ( http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/ ) and hammer it every
morning ?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> >> From: Marko
Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>> >> To: Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
>>>>
>> Cc: "Poplawski, James" <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com>; --Hammer--
>>>>
>> <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Group Study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>> >>
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:01:00 AM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October
8.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:40, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
wrote:
>>>> >>> On a serious note, vendors who claim to cover 100% of
requirements and
>>>> >>>challenge
>>>> >>> students to find a topic not
covered in the lab should read your post
>>>> >>>carefully.
>>>> >>> Their
silence is at least "interesting".
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Oskar,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> What
makes you think that we were silent? James complained that he
>>>> >> didn't
pass, it's not our position to publicly "rub it in", but rather
>>>> >> to
reach out and assist him in getting ready for his next attempt and
>>>> >> the
best way to best use the material available to him. Since he only
>>>> >>
mentioned that he had IPexpert material, he can tell you what IPexpert
>>>> >>
did as a response to his e-mail. He didn't use our material for his
>>>> >>
preparation, but I hope he will for his next go - it will probably
>>>> >>
help him a lot.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Now, I will repeat something often said...
Training vendors are not
>>>> >> passing your lab - you are. We provide the
material and we cover what
>>>> >> we believe is relevant to make you good
engineers and experts, as well
>>>> >> as assist you in passing the lab. You
need to use that material, you
>>>> >> need to read books, articles and RFCs
referenced from that material if
>>>> >> you want to improve and be well
prepared for the lab. There is no
>>>> >> replacement for YOUR work!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>> >> Senior Technical
Instructor - IPexpert
>>>> >>
>>>> >> FREE CCIE training:
http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
>>>> >>
Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>> >> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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