RE: New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

Yeah, but they seem to have a pretty tight grip on IOU. I wouldn't
expect Cisco to release it to the public anytime soon.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ccieyarub [mailto:ccieyarub_at_gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:02 PM
To: Brad Ellis
Cc: Alexei Monastyrnyi; Jeffrey Pazahanick; groupstudy
Subject: Re: New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

IOS XR already virtualized inside CISCO there is so many CISCO employees
who are using this virtual ios xr

Cheers
Bert
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On 2010-10-21, at 3:25 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:

> Flourishing? That really depends on the demand for the track and how
> much $$ it will cost per rack. Kind of like the CCIE Wireless and the

> CCIE storage. There's not a whole lot of options out there for them
> because the equipment is so expensive and the CCIE tract itself isn't
> as popular.
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI# 30482
> CEO / President
> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Alexei Monastyrnyi
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:57 AM
> To: Narbik Kocharians
> Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Jeffrey Pazahanick; groupstudy
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint
>
> There will be rental labs flourishing for SP track. I don't think
> Cisco cares much about personal labs etc. There wil be hardware
> refreshes for RS and Security in the future, let along wireless and
> voice: they can't stay the same forever. Dynamips has passed the peak

> of its glory and this pendulum is swinging to an opposite direction
> (as it always does once in a while).
>
> So abandon the hope, get real, go rent. :-) Seriously, for many of us
> who has families and kids, spare time for studies is a limited
> quantity.
>
> 6 years ago I was happy working after-hours, building my real lab from

> left-overs and tuning Dynamips and PEMU on multi-cpu Linux servers
> which were idling during night shifts.
>
> Now I go rent say Security 3.0 POD, a 3-hr slot 3 times a week, 4 AUD
> per hour, and have no concerns. :-)
>
> Sorry for getting slightly OT, my point is, it is not that bad. It is
> a lot of good in those HW refreshes, it keeps certification at the
> edge..
>
> A.
>
> On 10/21/2010 11:27 AM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>> I am sure Cisco will come up with something or else this track is
>> dead
>
>> as far as i am concerned. Maybe they will provide racks for Cisco
>> partners, who knows?
>>
>> If they want to be relevent, then, they should change the R&S track
>> as
> well.
>> They should change the 3560s to two 6500s and some 3750s, i don't see

>> them doing that at all. So the money factor comes in to play, but i
>> am
>
>> sure that Cisco will come up with something. I hope.....
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Marko
> Milivojevic<markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>>
>>> No surprises there. I think the equipment list is reasonable and
>>> relevant for the Service Provider track. I'm glad Cisco went this
> way.
>>> This keeps the certification relevant in the market.
>>>
>>> It could have been worse. This is perfectly fine. In fact, I'm very
>>> happy with this list.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>
>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>>
>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 21:28, Jeffrey Pazahanick<jeffpaz_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hardware is posted..
>>>>
>>>> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-10121
>>>>
>>>> Lab Equipment
>>>>
>>>> B B Cisco XR12000 Series Routers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> B B Cisco 7200/7600 Series equivalent Routers (Using Simulator)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> B B Cisco ME3400E Series Switches
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Software Versions
>>>>
>>>> B B XR12000 routers running IOS-XR Software Version 3.9.1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> B B 7200/7600 routers running IOS Software Version 12.2-33 SR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> B B ME3400E switches running IOS Software Version 12.2-54 SE
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Gaurav
>>>> Thukral<pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> I agree.That will be expensive. But do not worry, i am 100 % sure
>>>>> that IPexpert Team will help us to attain that magic no. They will

>>>>> start IOS XR rack rental soon& also Develop a material for new
> Blueprint.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Gaurav
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Robert Hosford<
>>> rhosford_at_certifiednets.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> How does an average Joe afford this? It seems to me a much more
>>> expensive
>>>>>> CCIE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>> Of
>>>>>> Andrey Petrenko
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:47 PM
>>>>>> To: Marko Milivojevic
>>>>>> Cc: Gaurav Thukral; groupstudy; OSL Service Provider
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so, how i can emulate Cisco Ios Xr?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/10/20, Marko Milivojevic<markom_at_ipexpert.com>:
>>>>>>> I haven't heard of that one so far, but I suspect that may be
> true.
>>> If
>>>>>>> they have it the same way they have IOU, then it's a distinct
>>>>>>> possibility. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:06, Gaurav
>>>>>>> Thukral<pearlgaurav_at_gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Cisco also has a IOS XR Simulator they can also use that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Gaurav
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Marko Milivojevic
>>>>>>>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:30, Markus BC6ing
>>>>>>>>> <markus.boeing_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> ... then again, mix of XR and IOS in IOU is a possibility
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> so much money.
>>>>>>>>>> XR& IOU? I don't think they go together.
>>>>>>>>> IOU supports talking to live systems. Therefore, one server
>>>>>>>>> running multiple IOU instances can be connected to couple of
>>>>>>>>> XR
>
>>>>>>>>> boxes to build very powerful and scalable lab.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I said, I don't believe XR itself can be virtualized in the

>>>>>>>>> same way IOS can with IOU. Then again, I don't work for Cisco,

>>>>>>>>> all this
>>> I
>>>>>>>>> heard from people who do :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor -
>>>>>>>>> IPexpert
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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