Re: Failed - October 8.

That's a constant. You just remember 802.1 and then add the letter "s"
as in mSt, or "w" as in "Whatwasitagain"? ;-)

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 16:11, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> hahaha
>
> Don't forget that they both have 802 in them as well.
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Well... it's actually very easy to remember. MST (802.1s) *requires*
>> use of 802.1w. MST has "s" in it, the other one doesn't ;-)
>>
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>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 15:50, Poplawski, James
>> <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks for your advice.
>> >
>> > The other one is a great way, but when you hit RSTP (802.1w) versus MSTP
>> > (802.1s), you freak out and double-check.
>> >
>> > Using the DOCCD and browsing the WAN-Frame Relay section you're able to
>> > do a search (Ctrl+F) and search 1490.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> > JB
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Muzammil Malick [mailto:malickmuz_at_gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:43 AM
>> > To: Oskar
>> > Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Poplawski, James; --Hammer--; CCIE Group Study
>> > Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >
>> > James
>> >
>> > Going back to your original email. As someone who has been there and
>> > experienced the same issues as you, I would say that regarding small
>> > things such as RFC values and 802.xyz issues, its just one of those
>> > things that you just have to nail.
>> >
>> > For me this has always been a non issue because when i took the lab I
>> > had to do OEQs so I ended up learning all these things inside out
>> > anyways!! B So it doesn't hurt to learn them because
>> > in the past people were required to learn them.
>> >
>> > Also what I would say is that a lot of the stuff that Cisco throws in
>> > is along the lines of "Use this type of encapsulation e.g RFC 1490
>> > they are really saying, don't use the Cisco method or do use the Cisco
>> > method. If you are having problems remembering all the details just
>> > remind yourself that you can either use "cisco" or "the other one"
>> > Then later on when you have some spare time you can go back and check
>> > that you are using the right encapsulation.
>> > Im not saying this is a strict rule you should follow, just if you are
>> > having problems remembering stuff.
>> >
>> > Its also great that you passed Troubleshooting because that will give
>> > you the confidence to nail TS in the future.
>> >
>> > Also the great thing is that you know where your problems lie. Some
>> > people come out bemused because they thought they had nailed it and
>> > dont have a clue where they went wrong. Take heart from your position
>> > and move on and nail it
>> >
>> > Good luck mate.
>> >
>> > On 20 October 2010 16:06, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >> Marko,
>> >>
>> >> I am not saying anything about IPE books. I use other vendor materials
>> >> but I
>> >> prefer not to mention the name. My point is that if I MUST know RFC #s
>> >> to
>> >> understand the question than I expect the workbook to work that way
>> >> too. My
>> >> workbook will not help me in that regard.
>> >>
>> >> Now, what are RFCs to know ?
>> >> Is there such list so I can type it in mnemosyne
>> >> ( http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/ ) and hammer it every morning ?
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----
>> >> From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>> >> To: Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
>> >> Cc: "Poplawski, James" <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com>; --Hammer--
>> >> <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Group Study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> >> Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:01:00 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:40, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >>> On a serious note, vendors who claim to cover 100% of requirements and
>> >>>challenge
>> >>> students to find a topic not covered in the lab should read your post
>> >>>carefully.
>> >>> Their silence is at least "interesting".
>> >>
>> >> Oskar,
>> >>
>> >> What makes you think that we were silent? James complained that he
>> >> didn't pass, it's not our position to publicly "rub it in", but rather
>> >> to reach out and assist him in getting ready for his next attempt and
>> >> the best way to best use the material available to him. Since he only
>> >> mentioned that he had IPexpert material, he can tell you what IPexpert
>> >> did as a response to his e-mail. He didn't use our material for his
>> >> preparation, but I hope he will for his next go - it will probably
>> >> help him a lot.
>> >>
>> >> Now, I will repeat something often said... Training vendors are not
>> >> passing your lab - you are. We provide the material and we cover what
>> >> we believe is relevant to make you good engineers and experts, as well
>> >> as assist you in passing the lab. You need to use that material, you
>> >> need to read books, articles and RFCs referenced from that material if
>> >> you want to improve and be well prepared for the lab. There is no
>> >> replacement for YOUR work!
>> >>
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