Re: Failed - October 8.

and Marko just read my mind and said the exact same thing before I
posted my last email

"In some cases, talking about
RFC number gives you an indicator not to use vendor-propriatory
solution, but the standards-based one. Etc."

On 20 October 2010 16:42, Muzammil Malick <malickmuz_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> James
>
> Going back to your original email. As someone who has been there and
> experienced the same issues as you, I would say that regarding small
> things such as RFC values and 802.xyz issues, its just one of those
> things that you just have to nail.
>
> For me this has always been a non issue because when i took the lab I
> had to do OEQs so I ended up learning all these things inside out
> anyways!! So it doesn't hurt to learn them because
> in the past people were required to learn them.
>
> Also what I would say is that a lot of the stuff that Cisco throws in
> is along the lines of "Use this type of encapsulation e.g RFC 1490
> they are really saying, don't use the Cisco method or do use the Cisco
> method. If you are having problems remembering all the details just
> remind yourself that you can either use "cisco" or "the other one"
> Then later on when you have some spare time you can go back and check
> that you are using the right encapsulation.
> Im not saying this is a strict rule you should follow, just if you are
> having problems remembering stuff.
>
> Its also great that you passed Troubleshooting because that will give
> you the confidence to nail TS in the future.
>
> Also the great thing is that you know where your problems lie. Some
> people come out bemused because they thought they had nailed it and
> dont have a clue where they went wrong. Take heart from your position
> and move on and nail it
>
> Good luck mate.
>
> On 20 October 2010 16:06, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Marko,
>>
>> I am not saying anything about IPE books. I use other vendor materials but I
>> prefer not to mention the name. My point is that if I MUST know RFC #s to
>> understand the question than I expect the workbook to work that way too. My
>> workbook will not help me in that regard.
>>
>> Now, what are RFCs to know ?
>> Is there such list so I can type it in mnemosyne
>> ( http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/ ) and hammer it every morning ?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
>> To: Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
>> Cc: "Poplawski, James" <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com>; --Hammer--
>> <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Group Study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:01:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:40, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> On a serious note, vendors who claim to cover 100% of requirements and
>>>challenge
>>> students to find a topic not covered in the lab should read your post
>>>carefully.
>>> Their silence is at least "interesting".
>>
>> Oskar,
>>
>> What makes you think that we were silent? James complained that he
>> didn't pass, it's not our position to publicly "rub it in", but rather
>> to reach out and assist him in getting ready for his next attempt and
>> the best way to best use the material available to him. Since he only
>> mentioned that he had IPexpert material, he can tell you what IPexpert
>> did as a response to his e-mail. He didn't use our material for his
>> preparation, but I hope he will for his next go - it will probably
>> help him a lot.
>>
>> Now, I will repeat something often said... Training vendors are not
>> passing your lab - you are. We provide the material and we cover what
>> we believe is relevant to make you good engineers and experts, as well
>> as assist you in passing the lab. You need to use that material, you
>> need to read books, articles and RFCs referenced from that material if
>> you want to improve and be well prepared for the lab. There is no
>> replacement for YOUR work!
>>
>> --
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