Re: Failed - October 8.

James

Going back to your original email. As someone who has been there and
experienced the same issues as you, I would say that regarding small
things such as RFC values and 802.xyz issues, its just one of those
things that you just have to nail.

For me this has always been a non issue because when i took the lab I
had to do OEQs so I ended up learning all these things inside out
anyways!! So it doesn't hurt to learn them because
in the past people were required to learn them.

Also what I would say is that a lot of the stuff that Cisco throws in
is along the lines of "Use this type of encapsulation e.g RFC 1490
they are really saying, don't use the Cisco method or do use the Cisco
method. If you are having problems remembering all the details just
remind yourself that you can either use "cisco" or "the other one"
Then later on when you have some spare time you can go back and check
that you are using the right encapsulation.
Im not saying this is a strict rule you should follow, just if you are
having problems remembering stuff.

Its also great that you passed Troubleshooting because that will give
you the confidence to nail TS in the future.

Also the great thing is that you know where your problems lie. Some
people come out bemused because they thought they had nailed it and
dont have a clue where they went wrong. Take heart from your position
and move on and nail it

Good luck mate.

On 20 October 2010 16:06, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Marko,
>
> I am not saying anything about IPE books. I use other vendor materials but I
> prefer not to mention the name. My point is that if I MUST know RFC #s to
> understand the question than I expect the workbook to work that way too. My
> workbook will not help me in that regard.
>
> Now, what are RFCs to know ?
> Is there such list so I can type it in mnemosyne
> ( http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/ ) and hammer it every morning ?
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> To: Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca>
> Cc: "Poplawski, James" <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com>; --Hammer--
> <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Group Study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 10:01:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Failed - October 8.
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:40, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> On a serious note, vendors who claim to cover 100% of requirements and
>>challenge
>> students to find a topic not covered in the lab should read your post
>>carefully.
>> Their silence is at least "interesting".
>
> Oskar,
>
> What makes you think that we were silent? James complained that he
> didn't pass, it's not our position to publicly "rub it in", but rather
> to reach out and assist him in getting ready for his next attempt and
> the best way to best use the material available to him. Since he only
> mentioned that he had IPexpert material, he can tell you what IPexpert
> did as a response to his e-mail. He didn't use our material for his
> preparation, but I hope he will for his next go - it will probably
> help him a lot.
>
> Now, I will repeat something often said... Training vendors are not
> passing your lab - you are. We provide the material and we cover what
> we believe is relevant to make you good engineers and experts, as well
> as assist you in passing the lab. You need to use that material, you
> need to read books, articles and RFCs referenced from that material if
> you want to improve and be well prepared for the lab. There is no
> replacement for YOUR work!
>
> --
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