Re: CCDE results July 19th?

I can not certainly say if there could EVER be a single solution to
CCDE training. The exam is quite special, as it has been designed by a
"special" group of people at Cisco :) The main problem, in my opinion,
is the fact that there could "multiple" correct answers. To make it
even worse, some of the answers are free-form. All this together makes
the grading process vague. Not to mention that the grading process for
a $1400 exam has never been clearly defined. Thus, even though I
passed the exam, I'm not really sure *how* :) I can only assume that
some of my answers were correct.

However, even though I am not sure that "classic" training products
(bootcamps or "special" workbooks) could be useful, I do believe that
self-study may *help* you pass the exam (though not guarantee it).
Right now, I am compiling the reading list that I was using during my
preparations - it is different from the "official" one. I am expecting
to post it this weekend or early next week. Additionally, I have been
also working on the "CCDE cheat sheet" document in my spare time,
summarizing some "generic" tips and ideas that I think are within the
scope of CCDE curriculum. This one would be posted later though, as I
tend to change a lot of content there :)

Anyways, if you do decide pursuing the CCDE certification, be aware
that the exam is even more vague than the CCIE :) The CCIE lab is more
linear and with most of the tasks you may at least imagine a way to
validate your solution. It is not like that with the CCDE - you may
only "assume" that your answers are optimal. The CCDE practical exam
sure puts your stamina to test, as it involves a lot of reading and
co-relating multiple information sources. This also makes the test a
bit harder to non-native English speakers, btw (hey, I never got that
"promised" 30 minutes exam extensions ;). With that being said, good
luck in your studies!

--
Petr
PS
Still no CCDE# from Cisco. It sucks being a CCDE without a number :)
2010/9/24 Craig Tompkins <sidalo_at_gmail.com>:
> I second this question.
> ---
> Craig Tompkins
> CCIE #16921
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Larry H <larryh12203_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Might there be some CCDE training items on the horizon?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Larry Hadrava
>> CCIE #12203
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Petr Lapukhov <petr_at_internetworkexpert.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thank you!
>> >
>> > To be honest, I'm not sure if I should ever go for another CCIE :).
>> > Just a few days ago, when I got my CCDE result I was thinking it may
>> > be the time to finally complete the Storage track. Then again, CCIE
>> > exams are fun, but not that challenging anymore as they used to be
>> > when I started. They sure didnt get easier to pass, but don't seem to
>> > be that exciting anymore. As opposed to taking the exams, I wish I can
>> > spend more time developing new products - I accumulated a lot of
>> > (hopefully interesting) ideas the last four years ;)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Petr
>> >
>> > 2010/9/23 Antonio Soares <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>:
>> >> Congratulations Petr ! What's next ? Storage ? SP Ops ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP)
>> >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Petr
>> >> Lapukhov
>> >> Sent: quinta-feira, 23 de Setembro de 2010 13:33
>> >> To: Stephen Amaki
>> >> Cc: Marc La Porte; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> >> Subject: Re: CCDE results July 19th?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, it was actually harder than any CCIE :) Mostly because the
>> >> exam was pretty vague.
>> >>
>> >> Marc, I got the results from VUE last week, but no official number
>> >> from Cisco yet. My CCIE profile still shows the exam as "TAKEN" so I
>> >> guess it takes a while to update the database and "allocate" CCDE
>> >> numbers (I bet it's not "automatic"). Unfortunately, I haven't heard
>> >> of anyone else passing, but I'm sure there should be more. The testing
>> >> center was practically full with about 30 people taking the exam.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Petr
>> >>
>> >> 2010/9/23 Stephen Amaki <swamaki_at_gmail.com>:
>> >>> Peter L is now  a CCDE.....Congrats Petr, never had the chance to say.
>> >>>
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