Re: OT 911 Anniversary (A Muslim Response to the Attack on

Kazi,

I understand ur message. however this particular thread was not started by
any muslims. nobody objected to the sympathies he has for 911 victims. he
also mentioned word OT which is fine. the only objection was to the words
"radical islamic extremists'.

nobody, i repeat NOBODY has the right to violate others feeling. you are
free to post whatever crap you want to however be ready if you violate
somebody's feeling. the message was plain and simple.

If he hurt unintentionally then he shud have apologised by now which he
hasn't and hence we assume that his comments were intentional.

Regards

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Kazi Junaid <junaidkazi76_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> John my friend don't say that again for Muslims. Dont have hard feelings.
>
> I urge all muslim brothers not to post religious msg or greetings on this
> forum.
> Looking at some of your cisco post Mohammed / Zeeshan / Shahid you all are
> nice and kool guyz.
> I would be happy to see all you guyz as Quad CCIE, so work on that.
>
> This forum is for cisco and ccie, lets stick to that.
> Love u all.
>
> Best Wishes to all
> JK
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:00 PM, John Pelletier <
> john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes one last response although I said I would not. Throughout history
>> muslims
>> have killed approx 270 MILLION people from the beginning of the unjust
>> crusades to present day.
>>
>> The atomic bombs were to end a war started when JAPAN ATTACKED the US at
>> Pearl
>> Harbor AND ultimately REDUCED the number of deaths vs a traditional land
>> invasion of Japan.
>>
>> Good by hater, keep trying-and failing to justify the murder of 3000
>> innocent
>> civilians on 911.
>>
>> --- On Sun, 9/12/10, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: OT 911 Anniversary (A Muslim Response to the Attack on
>> America)
>> To: "John Pelletier" <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>
>> Cc: "Zeeshan Sanaullah" <zeeshansanaullah_at_hotmail.com>,
>> shiranp3_at_gmail.com,
>> shahid1357_at_gmail.com, jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com, nrafia_at_gmail.com,
>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com, itguy.pro_at_gmail.com
>> Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 5:51 AM
>>
>> can you respond tp my previous email abt millions of death of nagasaki,
>> hiroshima, korea, vietnam, iraq, afghanistan instead please?
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Pelletier
>> <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com> wrote:
>>
>> Quick look out the windows the space ships are landing....hurry up before
>> the
>> little
>>
>> green guys get you...it is another conspiracy.....yes a plot....to get
>> you.......
>>
>> Should not have even bothered responding to such insane, baseless rants to
>> justify
>> the mass murder of over 3000 defenseless civilians. Keep the propaganda
>> and
>> hate
>>
>> flowing boys that is what your masters want you to do. I will not be
>> responded to any
>> of the additional insane rants from haters like yourself.B Seek immediate
>>
>> psychological help for your mental illness.
>>
>> --- On Sun, 9/12/10, Zeeshan Sanaullah <zeeshansanaullah_at_hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> From: Zeeshan Sanaullah <zeeshansanaullah_at_hotmail.com>
>>
>> Subject: RE: OT 911 Anniversary (A
>> Muslim Response to the Attack on
>> America)
>> To: john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com, monavy_at_gmail.com
>>
>> Cc: shiranp3_at_gmail.com, shahid1357_at_gmail.com, jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com,
>> nrafia_at_gmail.com, ccielab_at_groupstudy.com, itguy.pro_at_gmail.com
>>
>> Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 5:03 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Point is that most of the political history is corrupted and we are
>> only taught what the elite want so that we can be in our limits and be a
>> part
>> of the system they built.
>>
>>
>> As far as 9/11 is concerned, in my opinion its was totally a Zionist
>> operation which aimed to :
>>
>>
>> B 1 - speed up the transfer of power from the United States to Israel (
>>
>> we
>> will wait and see in few years when Israel becomes the next world
>> super power
>> , unleashes all its hidden nuclear assets, and ofcourse all
>> of its gold,
>> leaving the whole world with paper money which will be
>> nothing more than wall
>> paper. I hope myself and GS will be alive to post
>> this as an OT)
>>
>>
>> 2 - A false flag attack to be used to carry out major wars against the
>> Muslims (as the Islamic unity is the biggest threat to the Zionists and
>> the
>> state of Israel) and maybe to create two groups of world powers and
>> economies
>> just like before WWI and WWII to create a WWIII
>>
>>
>> and more ...
>>
>>
>> Please note that by referring to Zionists and Zionism I am not being
>> Anti
>> Semitic. I don't have any hard feelings against the Jews and
>> Christians.
>> Being Anti-Zionist is not being Anti-Semitic. I honestly
>> believe that every
>> single life lost on 9/11 and in Holocaust is
>> completely wrong and its a crime
>> against humanity. Its not about 3000 or 6 million, a single innocent
>> human
>> killed and oppressed is wrong.
>>
>>
>> CNN, FOX and BUSH worshippers should wake up and do a little research
>> before
>> believing in what uncle Bush says
>>
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2461177575671329682#
>>
>>
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml
>>
>>
>>
>> "The official explanation is that the intense heat from the jet fuel
>> vaporized the entire plane "
>>
>>
>> Flight
>> 77 had two Rolls Royce engines made of steel and titanium alloy and
>> where 6 tonnes each which is scientifically impossible to be vaporized by
>> jet
>> fuel
>>
>> Strangely
>> the whole world believes it ... and more strangely some CCIEs
>> believe
>> it (If you freakin idiots can figure out a way to knock out the CCIE
>> Lab
>> and then also find a way to knock out the bloody zionists out of
>> world.)
>>
>>
>> As Adolf Hitler said " Say a lie loud enough and long enough and people
>> will
>> believe it "
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Below is the link to an article (also attached) published in December 2001
>> by
>> a Islamic Scholar which you must all read.
>>
>>
>> http://www.imranhosein.org/media/books/muslimresponse.pdf
>>
>>
>> A little excerpt
>>
>>
>> B " Clearly USA, theB b Ruling Stateb , cannot be brought to its knees
>>
>> other than through a
>>
>> collapse of the US economy and the US dollar. That is precisely what could
>> have
>>
>> occurred had President Bush been assassinated. The continuing threats to
>> USA,
>> even
>>
>> as we write, and after the whole world has ganged-up againstB Islam, the
>> Qurb an, and
>>
>>
>> Prophet Muhammad (s), and even after the US war on Usama and his men,
>> indicates
>>
>> that the Jewish effort to bring about the collapse of the US economy and
>> the
>> US
>>
>> dollar is still being actively pursued.B
>>
>> B
>>
>> Henry Ford, the famous AmericanB industrialist who manufactured Ford
>>
>> motorcars
>>
>> warned America of this danger as early as 1919-20. After the First World
>> War,
>> he
>>
>> realized the havoc being wrought by Jewish international financiers.B He
>>
>> commissioned the most intelligent researchers to make aB thorough study
>> of
>> the
>>
>> international Jew and published their findings in 1919-20 in the b
>> Dearborn
>>
>> Independentb , the official organ of the Ford Motor Company. It was later
>> published as
>>
>> a book entitled, b The International Jewb .B It has recently been
>>
>> reprinted in Malaysia
>>
>> and is widely available at local bookstores.
>>
>>
>> The American economy has not as yet collapsed but the writing is on the
>> wall
>> that it
>>
>> is under attack by enemies who are embedded within the system itself.B If
>>
>> and when
>>
>> the US economy does collapse, and if and when Israel also succeeds in
>> establishing
>>
>> its military dominance and control over the whole region and in
>> dramatically
>>
>> expanding the territory of the State in defiance of the whole world,
>> Israel
>> would then
>>
>> succeed USA as theB b Ruling Stateb inB the world. When that happens
>> the
>>
>> world would
>>
>> be greatly surprised, but the true followers of the Arabian Prophet (s)
>> would
>> not be
>>
>> surprised at all!B "'
>>
>>
>>
>> You are most welcomed If you want to carry on the discussion. We
>> must
>> realize that during such discussions we must give our intellect
>> power over
>> our emotions so that we can conclude the right decision
>> and accept the
>> truth.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>>
>> Zeeshan Sanaullah , CCIE #25196 (R&S)
>>
>> > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:06:55 -0700
>> > From: john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com
>> > Subject: Re: OT 911 Anniversary
>>
>> > To: monavy_at_gmail.com
>> > CC: shiranp3_at_gmail.com; shahid1357_at_gmail.com; jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com;
>> nrafia_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; itguy.pro_at_gmail.com
>>
>> >
>> > Wrong again the Muslim crusades started inB
>> >
>> > 630 b Muhammad conquers Mecca from his base in Medina.
>> >
>> > and essentially ended for that era on
>> >
>> > 1090 b 1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except
>>
>> > Saragossa and Balearic Islands
>> >
>> > In defense the Christian crusades began in
>> >
>> > 1094 b Byzantine emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for
>> > help
>> >
>> > against Seljuk (Muslim Turks) invasions of his territory
>>
>> >
>> > Get a better source than Wiki for your
>> mis-information. Good luck.
>> >
>> > I don't have the time to argue with irrational, clueless people. This
>> has
>> > strayed way off
>> > topic into you defending the killing of 3000 innocent people in the 911
>>
>> > attacks-good bye.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 9/12/10, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> > Subject: Re: OT 911 Anniversary
>> > To: "John Pelletier" <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>
>> > Cc: "shiran guez" <shiranp3_at_gmail.com>, "Shahid Ansari"
>>
>> > <shahid1357_at_gmail.com>, "Jay McMickle" <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>,
>> "Nadeem
>> Rafi"
>>
>> > <nrafia_at_gmail.com>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>,
>>
>> > "itguy.pro_at_gmail.com" <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> > Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 3:54 AM
>> >
>> > was this all not started by you?? the 'CRUSADES'B were a
>> series
>> > ofB religiously sanctioned military campaignsB waged by much of
>> > WesternB ChristianB Europe, particularly theB FranksofB FranceB and theB
>> Holy
>> > Roman Empire.B
>> > refer below
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
>>
>> >
>> > you need to get a lesson.B
>> > When Muhammed conquered Mecca, not a single gunshot was fired, not a
>> single
>> > person killed. He even pardoned the lady who killed his unlce and tore
>> apart
>> > his body and threw his lungs.B
>>
>> > You probably need to get the history lessons right. War mongering and
>> Hate
>> > mongering, if u get a survey done in whole of the world (not only in
>> western
>> > countries but in WHOLE WORLD) then u wil know that US and its western
>> allies
>>
>> > are hated much more than ur intensity of hating
>> islam..................you
>> > have to rise to the fact....we do not need go way far in the history
>> Vietnam,
>> > Cold war, Hiroshima,
>> Nagasaki, Iraq, Afhganistan the list is
>> > endless.......................
>> > Hope sanity prevails
>> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:29 AM, John Pelletier
>> > <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Yes lets live in the past it is the best way to keep the hate burning.
>> Bye
>> > bye.
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 9/12/10, shiran guez <shiranp3_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > From: shiran guez <shiranp3_at_gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: OT 911 Anniversary
>> > To: "Mohammed Naviwala" <monavy_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> >
>> > Cc: "John Pelletier" <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>, "Shahid Ansari"
>> > <shahid1357_at_gmail.com>, "Jay McMickle" <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>,
>> "Nadeem
>> Rafi"
>>
>> > <nrafia_at_gmail.com>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>,
>>
>> > "itguy.pro_at_gmail.com" <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> >
>> > Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 2:58
>> AM
>> >
>> > At least know the facts:
>> > Arab and Jews where in Israel
>> > / Palestine since the start of timeB
>> > inB November 29B 1947 the UN given theB Palestinians a proposal to have
>> B
>> West
>>
>> > Bank of the Jordan, the Gaza District, Jaffa, and the Arav sectors of
>> the
>> > Galilee. Jerusalem, cherished by both Muslims and Jews as a holy city
>> but
>> the
>> > Palestinians rejected the proposal.
>> > In May 1948 after theB decelerationB of the UN to independence Egyptian,
>>
>> > Jordanian, Iraqi, Syrian and Lebanese forces all moved on the new born
>> to
>> > attack but Israel managed to maintain most of the countryB although
>> > theB entireB population was no more then 800KB including womenB children
>> old
>>
>> > and young.
>> > Since then we are being provoked every few yearsB
>> > The Fact that we still want peace with all thatB surroundsB us we are in
>> peace
>> > with Jordan and EgyptB althoughB all the
>> war we had,
>> > theB LebanonB governmentB is controlled by Iran and so doseB Syrian.B
>> > With Iran we where also in grate relations until theB ayatollahB turn
>> over
>> > andB broughtB a prospering and technology leader back to theB middleB
>> age
>> time
>>
>> > and I can go on and on, I usually do not get into this kind of trash but
>> that
>> > is making meB upsetB that some one is so blind or cover his eyes andB
>> ears
>> see
>> > and listen only to what is mostB convenient.B
>>
>> >
>> > With all that said I still wish you all the luck in your CCIE quest or
>> any
>> > other goal you may have :-)
>> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > ok john lets start for u then
>> >
>> >
>> > 1. 1948, a peace of land from the palestine was taken and given to
>> israel
>> >
>> > 2. everything from then on
>> >
>> >
>> > i was just showing u that u have a very
>> short memory
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM, John Pelletier <
>> >
>> > john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > > Did you jump on the other posts equally? I don't recall that you did.
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > --- On *Sat, 9/11/10, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>* wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > From: Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Subject: Re: OT 911 Anniversary
>>
>> >
>> > > To: "Shahid Ansari" <shahid1357_at_gmail.com>
>> >
>> > > Cc: "Mohammed Naviwala" <monavy_at_gmail.com>, "John Pelletier" <
>>
>> >
>> > > john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>, "Nadeem Rafi" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>, "
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>,
>> "itguy.pro_at_gmail.com"
>> > <
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> >
>> > > Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 7:41 PM
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Don't post this non-CCIE material here.
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Regards,
>>
>> >
>> > > Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
>> >
>> > > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > On Sep 11, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Shahid Ansari
>> > <shahid1357@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=shahid1357@gmail.com>>
>>
>> >
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>> > > wrote:
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>> > Best Regards
>>
>> >
>> > Mohammed Naviwala
>> >
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