Re: OT 911 Anniversary

Wrong again the Muslim crusades started inB

630 b Muhammad conquers Mecca from his base in Medina.

and essentially ended for that era on

1090 b 1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except
Saragossa and Balearic Islands

In defense the Christian crusades began in

1094 b Byzantine emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for
help

against Seljuk (Muslim Turks) invasions of his territory

Get a better source than Wiki for your mis-information. Good luck.

I don't have the time to argue with irrational, clueless people. This has
strayed way off
topic into you defending the killing of 3000 innocent people in the 911
attacks-good bye.

--- On Sun, 9/12/10, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT 911 Anniversary
To: "John Pelletier" <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>
Cc: "shiran guez" <shiranp3_at_gmail.com>, "Shahid Ansari"
<shahid1357_at_gmail.com>, "Jay McMickle" <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>, "Nadeem Rafi"
<nrafia_at_gmail.com>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>,
"itguy.pro_at_gmail.com" <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 3:54 AM

was this all not started by you?? the 'CRUSADES'B were a series
ofB religiously sanctioned military campaignsB waged by much of
WesternB ChristianB Europe, particularly theB FranksofB FranceB and theB Holy
Roman Empire.B
refer below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

you need to get a lesson.B
When Muhammed conquered Mecca, not a single gunshot was fired, not a single
person killed. He even pardoned the lady who killed his unlce and tore apart
his body and threw his lungs.B
You probably need to get the history lessons right. War mongering and Hate
mongering, if u get a survey done in whole of the world (not only in western
countries but in WHOLE WORLD) then u wil know that US and its western allies
are hated much more than ur intensity of hating islam..................you
have to rise to the fact....we do not need go way far in the history Vietnam,
Cold war, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Iraq, Afhganistan the list is
endless.......................
Hope sanity prevails
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:29 AM, John Pelletier
<john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com> wrote:

Yes lets live in the past it is the best way to keep the hate burning. Bye
bye.

--- On Sun, 9/12/10, shiran guez <shiranp3_at_gmail.com> wrote:

From: shiran guez <shiranp3_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT 911 Anniversary
To: "Mohammed Naviwala" <monavy_at_gmail.com>

Cc: "John Pelletier" <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>, "Shahid Ansari"
<shahid1357_at_gmail.com>, "Jay McMickle" <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>, "Nadeem Rafi"
<nrafia_at_gmail.com>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>,
"itguy.pro_at_gmail.com" <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>

Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010, 2:58 AM

At least know the facts:
Arab and Jews where in Israel
 / Palestine since the start of timeB
inB November 29B 1947 the UN given theB Palestinians a proposal to have B West
Bank of the Jordan, the Gaza District, Jaffa, and the Arav sectors of the
Galilee. Jerusalem, cherished by both Muslims and Jews as a holy city but the
Palestinians rejected the proposal.
In May 1948 after theB decelerationB of the UN to independence Egyptian,
Jordanian, Iraqi, Syrian and Lebanese forces all moved on the new born to
attack but Israel managed to maintain most of the countryB although
theB entireB population was no more then 800KB including womenB children old
and young.
Since then we are being provoked every few yearsB
The Fact that we still want peace with all thatB surroundsB us we are in peace
with Jordan and EgyptB althoughB all the war we had,
theB LebanonB governmentB is controlled by Iran and so doseB Syrian.B
With Iran we where also in grate relations until theB ayatollahB turn over
andB broughtB a prospering and technology leader back to theB middleB age time
and I can go on and on, I usually do not get into this kind of trash but that
is making meB upsetB that some one is so blind or cover his eyes andB ears see
and listen only to what is mostB convenient.B

With all that said I still wish you all the luck in your CCIE quest or any
other goal you may have :-)
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com> wrote:

ok john lets start for u then

1. 1948, a peace of land from the palestine was taken and given to israel

2. everything from then on

i was just showing u that u have a very short memory

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM, John Pelletier <

john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com> wrote:

> Did you jump on the other posts equally? I don't recall that you did.

>

> --- On *Sat, 9/11/10, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>* wrote:

>

>

> From: Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>

>

> Subject: Re: OT 911 Anniversary

> To: "Shahid Ansari" <shahid1357_at_gmail.com>

> Cc: "Mohammed Naviwala" <monavy_at_gmail.com>, "John Pelletier" <

> john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>, "Nadeem Rafi" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>, "

> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "itguy.pro_at_gmail.com"
<

> itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>

> Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 7:41 PM

>

>

> Don't post this non-CCIE material here.

>

> Regards,

> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Sep 11, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Shahid Ansari
<shahid1357@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=shahid1357@gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> >

>

>

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