PLease dont flush unnecessary mails..
Siva
IT Analyst
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> guys
>
> I apologise if I have hurt anybody.....I did not intend to continue this
> but
> Zack's email and words Islam and terror and other stuff made me loose my
> temper.
>
> again I aplogise if i hurt anybody....
>
> Regards
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Zack (Doc) <zack_at_tnan.net> wrote:
>
> > Mr Naviwala,
> >
> > You talk about gross apathy, but that is what I'm seeing from you. You
> > call
> > out Marc, but I only see one e-mail from him on this thread, and all he
> did
> > was agree that Roger made a good comment; Roger simply commented that
> this
> > was not an on-topic post. I'll agree that Oskar's comment was a bit
> > colored, but it was only said in jest (at least that's how I took it).
> >
> > You make a blanket statement that nobody has complained about those
> topics,
> > but you're either new to the list, and haven't checked teh archives, or
> > have
> > a short memory. I checked the archives and find many of those type
> topics
> > peppered with complaints, usually unanswered, or the end of the thread.
> > Not
> > ALL of them, but I'd say nearly half. The fact the complaint is
> > unanswered,
> > or the last post, tells me the people respected the point the person was
> > making.
> >
> > Shahid brings up Merry Christmas, which is not only a religious holiday,
> > but
> > a secular one as well, but I only find *4* messages for Merry Christmas
> in
> > the archives this past year (I didn't bother to look at previous years),
> > and
> > 18 for Happy Holidays which covers more than one religion/holiday and is
> > both secular and religious. This thread alone is already passing 30
> posts.
> > And in my mid-line knowledge of Islam (I know more than the average
> > non-practitioner, but less than a practitioner), Ramadan is purely
> > religious, not at all secular.
> >
> > And you speak of respecting the sentiment of another, but show no respect
> > for the simple fact that Roger is right, and whether there are complaints
> > on
> > other threads or not, the respectful response to being told you broke the
> > rules is to apologize, and begin following them. No one apologized for
> the
> > OT post (though I don't expect it) but have in-fact attacked the person
> who
> > pointed it out.
> >
> > In a time when Islam is widely viewed as a religion of terror because the
> > extremist groups wear their religion on their sleeve like an ill fitting
> > garment, we need to be extra respectful if we want people to see Islam as
> > the religion of peace so many of it's followers believe it to be. Quran
> > 2:44
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:50, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > its painful to see gross apathy on part of some ppl towards some other
> > > ppl...............mails by oskar or marc show that......in past there
> > have
> > > been emails on worldcup and basketballs and nobody has complained.
> > >
> > > Sorry to say but as a ccie or a wannabe ccie, ppl expect a lot of
> > > professionalism from us....few of the mails clearly do not show
> > that....to
> > > respect the sentiment of each other, least we can do it to remain
> > > silent......few ppl sharing blessing of a month considered holy by them
> > did
> > > not violate the rights of any of you.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Roger, pay attention what you are saying. They can put fatwa on you
> and
> > > on
> > > > your
> > > > family.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Roger Pfaeffli <rpf23543_at_gmail.com>
> > > > To: Shahid Ansari <shahid1357_at_gmail.com>; Cisco certification
> > > > <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 4:26:56 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: Wish you a blessed Ramadan !!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > What does it have to do with CCIE? Please do not post religious stuff
> > on
> > > > this list. Imagine if everyone starts to announce / congratulate for
> > > > religious "things" on this list, we will have a problem.
> > > >
> > > > And, there is no need to reply to my mail, everyone knows the rules
> of
> > > this
> > > > list and if you are honest, you know that it has nothing to do with
> the
> > > > CCIE.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!
> > > >
> > > > Roger
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > Shahid Ansari
> > > > Sent: Dienstag, 10. August 2010 12:19
> > > > To: Cisco certification
> > > > Subject: Wish you a blessed Ramadan !!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to wish* you all* a blessed *Ramadan*, May Allah accept from
> > us
> > > > and
> > > > from you (our deeds).
> > > >
> > > > May Allah guide us towards making this Ramadan a source for gathering
> > > > numerous blessings and getting our major and minor sins forgiven.
> > Ameen.
> > > >
> > > > The sky is clear. The air is clean. The land is green. *Thank you
> > Allah*
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Shahid Ansari
> > > >
> > > >
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