Re: Wish you a blessed Ramadan !!!!!!!!!

Zack

you are showing the same tendencies as we see around the
world..........atleast 2 people apologised for the OT inclusing me and I
pointed out to the list that somebody had already corrected it.

which part of the words 'Ramadan Mubarak' did you find atached to
terror?????

Religious or secular is an subjective thing and not a law of the land....in
our part of the world, the whole nation gets holiday on the EID (I believe
you know more than an average non-practioner and hence you know EID is
associated to Ramadan)....clearly if the whole nation celebrates it, it is
SECULAR and not religious....i dont know if this means some thing else to
you.

I again humbly point to the people here on this list that nobody had
attacked any other religion in these email..............what people did was
to share BLESSINGS with each other............thats it.........30 mails of
18 mail or 4 mails.......does not matter there were emails for the merry
christmas and US independence day as well .......... now what i point to you
here is what I hate to point but am compelled because you mentioned
something about ISLAM and TERROR I dont know if u do realise but many of the
nations in this world consider US as something equal to what you mention
here about Islam (I will not use those words)......that does not give me
right to object if you wish ur fellow americans happy independence day.....

With above email nobody had asked to convert to islam and start fasting from
tomorrow......

May almighty give us good sense and may Sanity prevail.............

Regards

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Zack (Doc) <zack_at_tnan.net> wrote:

> Mr Naviwala,
>
> You talk about gross apathy, but that is what I'm seeing from you. You
> call
> out Marc, but I only see one e-mail from him on this thread, and all he did
> was agree that Roger made a good comment; Roger simply commented that this
> was not an on-topic post. I'll agree that Oskar's comment was a bit
> colored, but it was only said in jest (at least that's how I took it).
>
> You make a blanket statement that nobody has complained about those topics,
> but you're either new to the list, and haven't checked teh archives, or
> have
> a short memory. I checked the archives and find many of those type topics
> peppered with complaints, usually unanswered, or the end of the thread.
> Not
> ALL of them, but I'd say nearly half. The fact the complaint is
> unanswered,
> or the last post, tells me the people respected the point the person was
> making.
>
> Shahid brings up Merry Christmas, which is not only a religious holiday,
> but
> a secular one as well, but I only find *4* messages for Merry Christmas in
> the archives this past year (I didn't bother to look at previous years),
> and
> 18 for Happy Holidays which covers more than one religion/holiday and is
> both secular and religious. This thread alone is already passing 30 posts.
> And in my mid-line knowledge of Islam (I know more than the average
> non-practitioner, but less than a practitioner), Ramadan is purely
> religious, not at all secular.
>
> And you speak of respecting the sentiment of another, but show no respect
> for the simple fact that Roger is right, and whether there are complaints
> on
> other threads or not, the respectful response to being told you broke the
> rules is to apologize, and begin following them. No one apologized for the
> OT post (though I don't expect it) but have in-fact attacked the person who
> pointed it out.
>
> In a time when Islam is widely viewed as a religion of terror because the
> extremist groups wear their religion on their sleeve like an ill fitting
> garment, we need to be extra respectful if we want people to see Islam as
> the religion of peace so many of it's followers believe it to be. Quran
> 2:44
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:50, Mohammed Naviwala <monavy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > its painful to see gross apathy on part of some ppl towards some other
> > ppl...............mails by oskar or marc show that......in past there
> have
> > been emails on worldcup and basketballs and nobody has complained.
> >
> > Sorry to say but as a ccie or a wannabe ccie, ppl expect a lot of
> > professionalism from us....few of the mails clearly do not show
> that....to
> > respect the sentiment of each other, least we can do it to remain
> > silent......few ppl sharing blessing of a month considered holy by them
> did
> > not violate the rights of any of you.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Oskar <xyz7412369_at_yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > Roger, pay attention what you are saying. They can put fatwa on you and
> > on
> > > your
> > > family.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Roger Pfaeffli <rpf23543_at_gmail.com>
> > > To: Shahid Ansari <shahid1357_at_gmail.com>; Cisco certification
> > > <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Thu, August 12, 2010 4:26:56 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Wish you a blessed Ramadan !!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > What does it have to do with CCIE? Please do not post religious stuff
> on
> > > this list. Imagine if everyone starts to announce / congratulate for
> > > religious "things" on this list, we will have a problem.
> > >
> > > And, there is no need to reply to my mail, everyone knows the rules of
> > this
> > > list and if you are honest, you know that it has nothing to do with the
> > > CCIE.
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Shahid Ansari
> > > Sent: Dienstag, 10. August 2010 12:19
> > > To: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Wish you a blessed Ramadan !!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > I'd like to wish* you all* a blessed *Ramadan*, May Allah accept from
> us
> > > and
> > > from you (our deeds).
> > >
> > > May Allah guide us towards making this Ramadan a source for gathering
> > > numerous blessings and getting our major and minor sins forgiven.
> Ameen.
> > >
> > > The sky is clear. The air is clean. The land is green. *Thank you
> Allah*
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Shahid Ansari
> > >
> > >
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Best Regards
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