Re: OT - Terry Childs, CCIE#14018

Hello Team,
I have a hard team believing that 1 person has the router/switch
infrastructure password for the entire city of San Francisco. Having worked
myself previously for the Dade County here in Miami, Fl, we had a team of 4
engineers, and not 1 person was the keeper of the passwords, that could only
log into the device. Again I have a tough time believing that he was the
only person on call every night, I am sure there were other network
engineers. But if he did change all the passwords and kept to himself and
not communicate to the team, than he gets what he deserves, and I'm sure he
will have a very hard time securing employment in the future as a Network
Engineer. I think certification becomes irrelevant at this point. I am sure
that he had to sign company policies and agreements when he got hired.
 Just my .02c
John Matijevic

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:42 AM, John Pelletier <
john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com> wrote:

> Another government run hack-o-rama all the way, now be sure
> to pay your taxes on time boys.
>
> --- On Sat, 8/7/10, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: OT - Terry Childs, CCIE#14018
> To: "Lloyd J. Rochon III" <lrochon_at_sbcglobal.net>, "Garth Bryden" <
> hacked.the.planet.on.28.8k.dialup_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: "Jack Router" <pan.router_at_gmail.com>, "Adrian Brayton" <
> abrayton_at_gmail.com>, "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 11:56 PM
>
> Which is extremely common out there today folks!!
> --
> Paul Negron
> CCIE# 14846 CCSI# 22752
> Senior Technical Instructor
> www.micronicstraining.com
>
>
>
> > From: "Lloyd J. Rochon III" <lrochon_at_sbcglobal.net>
> > Reply-To: "Lloyd J. Rochon III" <lrochon_at_sbcglobal.net>
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 03:49:03 +0000
> > To: Garth Bryden <hacked.the.planet.on.28.8k.dialup_at_gmail.com>
> > Cc: Jack Router <pan.router_at_gmail.com>, Adrian Brayton <
> abrayton_at_gmail.com>,
> > Cisco certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Subject: Re: OT - Terry Childs, CCIE#14018
> >
> > Agreed but I was just going off their urgency and lack of apparent
> technical
> > knowledge. I think they were in panic mode and spare no expense mode.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Lloyd Rochon
> > Lloyd J. Rochon III
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Garth Bryden <hacked.the.planet.on.28.8k.dialup_at_gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 11:29:46
> > To: <lrochon_at_sbcglobal.net>
> > Cc: Jack Router<pan.router_at_gmail.com>; Adrian Brayton<abrayton_at_gmail.com
> >;
> > Cisco certification<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Subject: Re: OT - Terry Childs, CCIE#14018
> >
> > Well I've read (but not had the courage to test) that if you press
> control
> > break when you are booting with password recovery disabled you can get
> into
> > the device, just with factory defaults.... I guess if there were no
> > passwords there woulda been no backup configurations which meant long
> nights
> > and lots of coffee restoring network services; whoopie
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Lloyd J. Rochon III
> > <lrochon_at_sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> >
> >> It also could have been the "no service password-recovery" command on
> key
> >> devices which caused costly replacements.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Lloyd Rochon - CCIE
> >> Lloyd J. Rochon III
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Garth Bryden <hacked.the.planet.on.28.8k.dialup_at_gmail.com>
> >> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 11:09:18
> >> To: Jack Router<pan.router_at_gmail.com>
> >> Reply-To: Garth Bryden <hacked.the.planet.on.28.8k.dialup_at_gmail.com>
> >> Cc: Adrian Brayton<abrayton_at_gmail.com>; Cisco certification<
> >> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> Subject: Re: OT - Terry Childs, CCIE#14018
> >>
> >> The $900,000 would be over the top but the costs they are calculating I
> >> assume won't be just for the password recovery process. Remember there
> is
> >> downtime involved to do this, they are most likely claiming compensation
> >> for
> >> lost revenue etc.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Jack Router <pan.router_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> How can you spend $900000 in 12 days ? Its 75K a day !!!! Did they hire
> >> 31
> >>> CCIEs full time for 12 days, assuming 300$/hour wage ? Obviously Terry
> >> was
> >>> right saying his boss was not qualified to have a password.
> >>> BTW, how do you get a job like Terry's boss ? What qualifications are
> >>> required ?
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >>> Adrian Brayton
> >>> Sent: 7-Aug-10 13:59
> >>> To: Cisco certification
> >>> Subject: OT - Terry Childs, CCIE#14018
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://www.businessweek.com/idg/2010-08-07/network-admin-terry-childs-gets-4
> >>> -year-sentence.html
> >>>
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