Re: I failed sp lab

I completely agree. As a candidate I find the hardest part of studying is
this: ENGAGING YOUR MIND.

I work with Narbik9s materials only, but I also have IPE materials. Both
are excellent, but a common problem that exists between them is me, the
STUDENT.

What I am saying is that sometimes I have my music blasting in my
headphones, and I am cranking through tasks and next thing I know I did 80
pages of study but didn9t learn anything. Is this a problem with the
workbook? Heck no. When I go back and make notes and take time I find that
the labs take 3x longer to do, but I absorb a lot more. I discover that the
authors of these labs have a lot of goodies hidden in there that they intend
for us to pick up if we ENGAGE ourselves.

I can say this from first hand experience for Narbik and IPE workbooks.
Also for 360. I have not purchased INE, but talking to my peers I think it
is true for them too.

I also want to give a hearty agreement to what Narbik said about picking one
vendor. They are all good, no doubt. But to stay sane you are better off
going 100% with one vendor, and use other vendors (if you can afford) as
validation of your knowledge. This is true with anything....if you were
trying to get in shape would you sign up for 3 exercise programs and do each
of them 33% of the time? No, you would pick one program and do it 110%.

Good luck, and sorry to hear about your fail. Let me encourage you with
these words I heard once....2failure is the warning sign of
success2....consider that for a minute.

On 8/2/10 10:06 AM, "Kocharians Narbik" <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I kind of disagree with some of you guys, work books should be designed
> to teach the students, if a work book does NOT teach the students the
> technologies, then there is a problem with that work book. BTW, i am NOT
> referring to INE or IPexpert's work books at all since i have NOT seen any
> of them and i am sure they are GR8.
>
> When you start the CCIE journey, you are pretty much at a CCNP + level, and
> you go through few work books that teach you the implementation of
different
> technologies, the features of a given protocol, and etc........, if this is
> missing in a work book, then i would say you are using the wrong work book.
>
> When you are preperring for the written, you read few books and try to
learn
> the thoery aspect of this cert, but when you are going for the lab, you
need
> a book that teaches you the theory from the commands perspective.
>
> If a book does NOT teach you BUNCH of stuff, then, why buy a book?
>
> CCIE Happy, this is my recommendation:
>
> Take the blueprint and go through it one item at a time.
> Stick to one vendor, every vendor has a road map, stick to their road map,
> don't jump around. Thier work book is a good indication of their classes
and
> philosophy.
> Get a work book that covers the technologies in the blueprint. This work
> book should have full explanations and walk throughs, don't buy a book that
> gives you the task and then gives you the answers.
> Try to attend a boot camp (If you can), most of the vendors cover more in
> their boot camp.
> Once you can answer all of *your* questions, you are ready for the lab.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:42 PM, joshua lauer <jslauer_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > I'm in the same boat, I didnt pass either but then again...I was clearly
>> > not
>> > ready for it. I took it just to get a picture as to what was on it. I'll
>> > nail it next time, work and life got in the way the first time around.
>> >
>> > Josh
>> > CCIE 16024 (R/S)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Hash <hashng_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> > > I am not sure you used those wb correctly. Anyways regroup yourself
and
>> > get
>>> > > back on the high horse.
>>> > > Good luck
>>> > > Hash
>>> > > Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless device from STC
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: CCIE Happy <ok_002010_at_hotmail.com>
>>> > > Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>>> > > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 20:32:19
>>> > > To: <kalsaria.prakash_at_gmail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> > > Reply-To: CCIE Happy <ok_002010_at_hotmail.com>
>>> > > Subject: RE: I failed sp lab
>>> > >
>>> > > I already used INE and Ipexpert !!!! :(
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 22:53:22 +0530
>>> > > Subject: Re: I failed sp lab
>>> > > From: kalsaria.prakash_at_gmail.com
>>> > > To: ok_002010_at_hotmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> > >
>>> > > SAD to here that :(
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > as you say it was horrible exam
>>> > > You might not be ready with the TECHNOLOGIES
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > i don't know what went wrong
>>> > > But now you have Idea, Upto what level you should be ready and what
it
is
>>> > > really in Exam
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > where U made mistake and Learn From There
>>> > > Take Your time
>>> > > ALL the Best for Next attempt
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Where did u gave the exam
>>> > > Practice at-least two vendors Workbook
>>> > >
>>> > > For some Idea abt CCIE SP
>>> > > you can reffer this site
>>> > > http://prakashkalsaria.wordpress.com
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:44 PM, CCIE Happy <ok_002010_at_hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > I am very sad . I faied my ccie sp exam .It was horrible exam . Most
of
>> > the
>>> > > topics aren't in the WBs
>>> > >
>>> > > Any Advice?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>>> > >
>>> > >
Received on Mon Aug 02 2010 - 10:21:51 ART