Re: CCAr - Meet the First Two Cisco Certified Architects

hehe :) ...Dayaa mate when i read your first reply to this post, i
knew you were jealous like me :)...

But both these guys r really the big daddy in cisco world. these guys
have seen the entire network engineering cycle ...from being ccies,
from being ccie proctors and preparing the ccie exams, from writing
well known ciscopress books, from working in advancded services etc.,
from migrating large scale networks, they have done almost
everything...so its ok for them to say this, & i'll take their words.
I'm sure the board will have people like Russ White, and both these
guys will be part of the board very soon.

They call CCDE as master coz DE needs knowledge from multiple ccie
covered domains, knowledge in one domain wont get anybody a DE. Tht's
d obvious rational of call'g IE as bachelor. BTW there r no single
digit IE's, it started from 1025 ;)

Lets be bachelor, and keep learning...Enough on this topic.

Now relax, and enjoy soccer for now.

Cheers
Swap
#19804 x2

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Dayaa Al Zoubi <cciecool_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Swap stop posting those videos , kidding mate . really nice one
> In fact I would say the hardest part of the academic study is the
> undergraduate .
>
> what I like about the new tracks thats it is more business oriented than a
> technical oriented , but in advance you have to have the tech knowledge to
> be able to go throw this ,
>
> I have meet many project managers managing IT projects without being from
> the IT background and 95 % of them were a big disaster. I would say the
> same apply to CCDE and CCA , if you look in to the Cisco paradigm CCDE and
> CCIE are in the same level , so how CCIE is undergrad and the CCDE is a
> master !!!!
>
> another issue I am interested to know who are the board and who how is the
> marking structure , who are in interviewers ,, maybe CCIE with one or two
> digits , I wonder if they are still alive !!
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Dayaa
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Garrett Skjelstad <garrett_at_skjelstad.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm actually enjoying the conversation... it gives some distraction to my
>> studying... albeit not a large distraction... but something interesting...
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Steve <threeseashells_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Can this mailing list be returned to group study please and the debate
>> > regarding various certifications be taken offline? Thanks.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 30 Jun 2010, at 09:01, Prakash Kalsaria <kalsaria.prakash_at_gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Every Certification has own value
>> >> In current market CCIE Would have More value than the other two
>> >> CCDE is picking up the Gear
>> >> as i heard the seats are full
>> >> it will be interesting how many pass-out the CCDE in this slot
>> >>
>> >> http://prakashkalsaria.wordpress.com
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:25 PM, George Roman <georgeroman_at_gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I do not even know why people try to compare Cisco cerifications (or
>> >> any
>> >>> other vendor certification) with University degree... It is not even
>> >>> close
>> >>> in my opinion
>> >>>
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>> >>> CCIE #24235
>> >>> JNCIE-M #497
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