Re: which diagram is almost must in the lab exam

Awesome post Christopher!

What I end up teaching in my bootcamps is the diagramming technique I might use if a particular lab exam warrants it (per my blog article I linked to earlier).

One of the the key things about the diagrams I might potentially use (and teach)...they can be created individually in about 2 minutes maximum. This is due to the fact that with the exception of an L2 diagram - there is a bunch of detail abstraction in them - and often times - I am just adding notes to an existing diagram.

What I love most about your post is "trying to box the lab exam into a set of rules". This can be very dangerous indeed. Even with an absolute like "save your configs often", there are several ways to get that done. You have to find what works for you.

While these many strategies and techniques can frustrate us as we study and try and develop what works best for us, at least we all know one thing...we need to understand the technologies of the blueprint intimately...if we do not - we are not ready and risk exam failure.

On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Grammer, Christopher wrote:

> I agree with Hopalong.
> I dont think its a good idea to try to box the lab exam into a set of rules.
> The idea, as far as I can tell, is to make the candidate uncomfortable.
> I have been personally told by a proctor that they want a candidate to have
> at least 1 question on the exam that makes the candidate panic because they
> have never implemented or experience a certain technology. He said, we know
> you cant know everything, we want to see how well you resolve uncommon
> situations, which is why you see some of these nutty configurations.
> Its not just to evaluate what you know...Its to evaluate what you know under
> pressure.
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> I have taking the exam 3 times and never found any specific thing difficult,
> it was always the way the exam was structured or the amount of configuration
> to be completed in a short amount of time. On my last attempt, I spent too
> much time trying to draw diagrams at the recommendation of my instructor.
> I believe that those diagrams were unnecessary and a waste of time because
> they didn't help resolve a problem because the topology was very simple(in
> my opinion). The diagrams provided were sufficient to solve the problems,
> but I ran out of time because I spent almost an hour drawing all these
> diagrams:
> An L2 diagram
> An L3 diagram
> A redistribution diagram
> A BGP diagram
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> And, they were beautiful diagrams, but ultimately unnecessary!
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> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:31 AM, hopalong <ccieangel2_at_googlemail.com> wrote:
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>> I think you will find that the more you practise questions the more it will
>> come to you what you personally need. I remember asking these types of
>> questions when I started and now I can look at a question and decide what I
>> need.
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>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:25 AM, <tosco12_at_yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>>> There are no redistribution diagrams.
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>>> hi ,
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>>> Some vendors book says it is a must to have redistibution diagram and
>>> layer 2 diagram and bgp diagram so on so forth.
>>> really which diagrams is must?
>>> I think layer 2 is must.What do you think redistirbution?
>>>
>>> do you think we will lose lots of time by having this diagrams?
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