Re: 6/11/10 - Officially Failed.

You will know when you have studies enough of one topic when you know AND
understand HOW it works and all of the optional keywords that you can add to
it:-)

I have seen many candidates that I have helped, look at the lab as many
isolated technologies and topics that they know how to configure. The
understanding of the technologies has to be from a view of how it works as
well as how it works with the other technologies and dependencies upon other
technologies.

Without knowing what materials you are using and your lab strategy I can
give you a few pointers:
1) Study the technologies from your vendors volume 1 workbooks to UNDERSTAND
them. Don't worry about speed the first time through. Go through them a
second time with a focus on speed and accuracy. Go through again looking for
100% accuracy and doing them with the prescribed timeframe. If you have to
review some sections take the time to do it.
2) Move on with your vendors advanced workbooks with full labs. Again, go
through them the first time without worrying about time. Take your time to
learn how all of the technologies in a given lab are fitting together and
their dependencies upon each other. Then go through the labs again with a
focus on speed and accuracy. If you get stuck on a technology then you have
identified a topic for further review.
3) Develop a consistent way of approaching each lab ( read the entire lab
first, draw it out, make short notes about dependencies in certain sections
, etc. ) and learn how to devise a way to track your time and points
consistently. This comes from my "train like you fight" mentality:-)

I'm sure that minds greater than mine will add to this for you. This is how
I had to do it to pass the lab.
Thanks
Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:07 PM, F H <sol3a1_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have any advise for someone who is going to take the R&S Lab
> for
> the third time in October?
>
> I don't want to take it again.
>
> As $$$$$ is an issue for me, what are some tricks so I don't over-study one
> subject which kills another subject?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Raghav Bhargava <
> raghavbhargava12_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hey James,
> >
> > All the best for your next attempt buddy...Don't give up , you will nail
> it
> > next time..:)
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Asif Gul Khan <nockhi_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > James,
> > >
> > > Sad to hear that, but ur attitude shows that ur surely going to get ur
> > > nmbers next tym u go for it.
> > >
> > > Thnx for such a detailed review, it really helps the guys planning to
> > > take the lab!
> > >
> > > On 6/14/10, Poplawski, James <jpoplawski_at_starkinvestments.com> wrote:
> > > > Took the Lab on Friday and got my results late Sunday night.
> > > >
> > > > I had some difficulties on the troubleshooting section. There was a
> > > Layer 2
> > > > technology that I got grilled on but haven't had enough practice with
> > it.
> > > >
> > > > Also when I closed out of the troubleshooting section it
> inadvertently
> > > > closed me out of the lab portion. So I got to sit on my hands for a
> > good
> > > > hour+ until it was resolved. Didn't get to see the config section
> > until
> > > > about 15min after lunch. Was pretty demoralized and discouraged as I
> > > didn't
> > > > know if I was taking the exam or if my trip was wasted for nothing.
> > Plus
> > > > having an hour lunch to talk to the proctor and other candidates
> about
> > > > nothing could've been better utilized having an hour to think about
> > what
> > > I
> > > > was going to do and how to do it. I ended up staying late to make up
> > the
> > > > time difference, but honestly losing that lunch period to think of
> > > things,
> > > > calm down, etc would've been nice. Going to check with Cisco (anyone
> > got
> > > an
> > > > e-mail for me) about a retake voucher or something.
> > > >
> > > > Some random thoughts/notes.
> > > >
> > > > Troubleshooting -
> > > >
> > > > Seemed pretty easy, minus the couple items I don't work enough with.
> > > That
> > > > Layer 2 technology is touched on by the vendor's but I don't think it
> > is
> > > to
> > > > the point of knowledge needed for troubleshooting. Definitely will
> go
> > > back
> > > > through the material I have and see if I'm missing something here or
> > not.
> > > > I'd say what it is but not sure on NDA and also don't want to get
> made
> > > fun
> > > > of. "Technology X is what stumped you??? C'mon it can't be that
> > > hard..."
> > > > Or so I thought too.
> > > >
> > > > Config Section -
> > > >
> > > > No real surprises here. Was asked to implement something via the 802
> > > name
> > > > instead of normal people speak so I looked it up to be sure. I
> guessed
> > > > right initially, but didn't want to implement it one way and be
> > > completely
> > > > wrong. There's a lot of material to cover. Like I said I don't
> think
> > > any
> > > > of it was difficult, just the sheer volume of material to cover. The
> > > > analogy I give to my non-technical friends/family is it's like
> learning
> > > > Spanish. There are those that can speak Spanish and those that are
> > > fluent
> > > > in it. I might be able to speak Spanish, but I'm by no means fluent
> in
> > > > it.... Yet. Cisco fluency, not Spanish... I can barely speak
> English
> > > > sometimes. :)
> > > >
> > > > Game Plan -
> > > >
> > > > Going to take the next week off, catch up a little on life. Been
> > > neglecting
> > > > things for a bit (@ work & life) and will take the next week to knock
> > if
> > > out
> > > > and lower my stress level. Going to go through my material again,
> > build
> > > a
> > > > game plan, work on speed and maybe hit a bootcamp up.
> > > >
> > > > It is do-able. I'm not really discouraged as you have to put your
> time
> > > in
> > > > and pay your dues. Watching football, you often see rookies who were
> > > > allstars in college riding pine in the NFL. They talk about doing
> the
> > > same
> > > > mindless reps, learning routes, kicking ass in practice, etc. Until
> > the
> > > one
> > > > day they get their chance to prove themselves. I'm going to aim for
> a
> > > few
> > > > months out and retake it. I definitely felt like I was in the right
> > > exam,
> > > > just need to be a lot quicker and ready to attack. There were a few
> > > other
> > > > candidates there for various tracks. 5 total, me and another guy on
> > our
> > > > first attempts (R+S), another two on their 4th (1R+S, 1VoIP) and one
> on
> > > his
> > > > second (SP).
> > > >
> > > > Happy studying! Got lots more to learn and practice on and I'm still
> > > hungry
> > > > for another $1,400+ lunch! :)
> > > > JB
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