Re: Loose points on restrictions

 (Including the group again) - Interesting words from Narbik.

Great work Narbik and Brad, sharing these amazing thoughts that only
experienced people would see, really helpful for those like me, struggling
on this battle.

Now back to some studying!

Cheers,

2010/6/2 Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>

> They run a script, BTW, NO ONE and i mean NO ONE knows how the script works
> or what things it looks for, if someone says they know, they are simply to
> naive or stupid.
> If the score comes very close and i mean very close (NOW...What does it
> mean close? know one knows) they will hand grade the entire test.
>
> I recommend NOT configuring more commands than you need, and be right on
> the money. For example some people say "broadcast" at the end of the
> frame-relay maps does not matter. I say it does for the following 2 reasons:
>
> 1. You pick up bad habits. I don't know if you are consulting or NOT, but
> how many times have you done a "Show run" on a client router and seen 100
> lines of ACLs, and smack in the middle they have "Permit IP any any"? These
> guys were thinking in the same manner, well, it does NOT hurt, Let's
> configure it just in case..........
>
> 2. Since Cisco does NOT have a list of commands that YOU as a student can
> configure at will any time with no bad side effect, i recommend NOT
> configuring more commands than required, and be exact.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Jeferson Guardia <jefersonf_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> about the grading system, I bet you know pretty much how it works!
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> 2010/6/2 Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> About what?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Jeferson Guardia <jefersonf_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> u really heard it or u know it? come on! tell me!
>>>>
>>>> 2010/6/1 Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Brad, that is exactly what i heard.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > For R&S, that it was I believe. If your score is close, it may see
>>>>> human
>>>>> > eyes, but I'm not sure about this. All re-grades are also done by
>>>>> hand.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > thanks,
>>>>> > Brad Ellis
>>>>> > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>>> > CCSI# 30482
>>>>> > CEO / President
>>>>> > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>>>> > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
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>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: Adrian Brayton [mailto:abrayton_at_gmail.com]
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:38 PM
>>>>> > To: Brad Ellis
>>>>> > Cc: Maarten Vervoorn; Cisco certification
>>>>> > Subject: Re: Loose points on restrictions
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Brad,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So your lab exam is just run through some sort of script to check it?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Jun 1, 2010, at 3:26 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Maarten,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Here's my theory on that:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > If at one point in the lab, you are asked to configure something,
>>>>> but
>>>>> > > you cant get it to work for whatever reason (ie, configure a
>>>>> routing
>>>>> > > protocol, don't use a static route), and then another part of the
>>>>> lab
>>>>> > is
>>>>> > > BASED upon the previous part working, I would suggest taking the
>>>>> loss
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > > points for that particular section, ie, use a static route to get
>>>>> your
>>>>> > > connectivity, but then the other section will work. It's worked
>>>>> well
>>>>> > for
>>>>> > > myself and our students doing it this way. I think it has something
>>>>> to
>>>>> > > do with the way the grading engine works - but this is just my
>>>>> > theory!!!
>>>>> > > The things the engine looks for is secretive, but, if I had to
>>>>> guess,
>>>>> > it
>>>>> > > will look at your routing tables, connectivity test results (ping
>>>>> > > tests), and configurations from the devices. If the connectivity
>>>>> > doesn't
>>>>> > > work, then you will probably lose all of the points even if
>>>>> > > configuration is correct based upon the connectivity. (make sense?)
>>>>> > So,
>>>>> > > when in doubt, stick that static route in there if you cant get
>>>>> your
>>>>> > > connectivity working for whatever reason. That's my theory, and I'm
>>>>> > > sticking to it!
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > thanks,
>>>>> > > Brad Ellis
>>>>> > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>>> > > CCSI# 30482
>>>>> > > CEO / President
>>>>> > > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>>>> > > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>>>> > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>>>> > > International: +1-702-968-5100
>>>>> > > Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>>>>> > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>>>> > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>>>> > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> > Of
>>>>> > > Maarten Vervoorn
>>>>> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:17 PM
>>>>> > > To: Cisco certification
>>>>> > > Subject: Loose points on restrictions
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Hi group,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > If you have a question early in the lab which you can't solve. But
>>>>> > this
>>>>> > > question is crucial for connectivity to continue the rest of the
>>>>> lab.
>>>>> > > You
>>>>> > > know you can solve the question with an option but it is restricted
>>>>> by
>>>>> > > the
>>>>> > > lab restictions (For example a static route). Will you loose extra
>>>>> > point
>>>>> > > for
>>>>> > > breaking a restictions when you leave it this way because you run
>>>>> out
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > > time? Or just the points of this question
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Thanks
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
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