Re: A students’ review of Narbik’s CCIE Boot Cam

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On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Michael Seonarain <mseonarain_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm a student of Narbik also. I totally agree. I took his written
> bootcamp
> and was blown away by the amount of material he covered, that I decided to
> take his bootcamp for the lab. If you're not ready for his style of
> teaching you'll be surprised. I say go thru his workbooks at least once
> before attending the bootcamp. Narbik reminds me of a math teacher I had
> growing up. He knew if you know the material or not just by looking at
> you. Thanks Narbik. Now back to studying.
>
> MS
>
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Ron Lim <gottobeccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm an old student of his and I totally agreed!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ron
> >
> > On 5/22/10, Manouchehr Omari <manouchehr1979_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, I have registered on 5th July, 2010.
> > >
> > > On 5/21/10, Raghav Bhargava <raghavbhargava12_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I would totally agree with all of this.. I attended Narbik's Bootcamp
> > and
> > >> it
> > >> is the best i would say.
> > >>
> > >> -Raghav
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:24 AM, George Philip <gphilip88_at_gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> A students review of Narbik s CCIE Boot Camp:
> > >>>
> > >>> I recently attended the 5 day CIERS-I + Narbik s 2.0 Boot Camp held
> in
> > >>> Richardson, TX; this class is part of the Cisco 360 Program. I'll
> > >>> provide some highlights from my experience on the 5 days I spent with
> > >>> Narbik.
> > >>>
> > >>> Initially, I was drawn to Narbik's CCIE Boot camp after having read
> > >>> about his non-conventional way of teaching the CCIE Lab exam topics.
> > >>> By that I mean, Narbik's CCIE Boot camp does not use power point
> > >>> slides, printed materials, or pre-made diagrams. Instead he relies
> on
> > >>> a whiteboard and hand drawn diagrams to teach and explain concepts.
> > >>> Using whiteboard diagrams in his class, instead of power point
> slides,
> > >>> set Narbik apart from the other offerings to me. I draw a lot of
> > >>> diagrams when doing labs and was intrigued by a teaching method that
> > >>> used a similar concept. Not a decision maker, but I also found posts
> > >>> that said Narbik has a savant like memory for the CLI. Needless to
> > >>> say, I was a little skeptical anyone could memorize enough of the IOS
> > >>> CLI to teach at a CCIE level.
> > >>>
> > >>> With that said, here is my experience from the boot camp:
> > >>>
> > >>> Day 1: Introduction, Switching and Frame-relay. Narbik s CCIE boot
> > >>> camp classes start at 9AM and goes until at least 9PM. We started
> out
> > >>> with introductions and then jumped into CCIE level basics on security
> > >>> and QoS for the switching platform. Once the lecture was done, as
> > >>> promised using only the whiteboard and hand drawn diagrams, we looked
> > >>> through the labs and started with switching. After a brief break for
> > >>> lunch, the Frame-relay lectures on configurations and complexities
> > >>> kept the class lively. Narbik gave us the labs pertaining to the
> > >>> frame-relay topics covered after the lecture. Even on day 1, the
> > >>> class was intense with a lot of topics covered in detail.
> > >>>
> > >>> Day 2: OSPF and EIGRP. Narbik covers OSPF and EIGRP with such
> > >>> thoroughness that I ended up with 4 pages of hand written notes and 2
> > >>> pages worth of typed notes. This even though I felt I had a pretty
> > >>> good understand of both of those topics. He covered the usual stuff
> > >>> but then pulled out ninja techniques and demonstrated behaviors
> > >>> within these IGPs I did not expect. During the lectures, he asks the
> > >>> students to setup a basic infrastructure and do debugging to
> > >>> illustrate the concepts even further. Narbik s lectures are very
> > >>> interactive, he asks if you understood what was just explained and if
> > >>> someone brings up a question, he re-explains it until everyone fully
> > >>> grasps the concepts. During his explanations, he will re-draw
> > >>> diagrams or modify existing ones to illustrate points.
> > >>>
> > >>> Day 3: QoS - I went in very unsure of many concepts in this area.
> > >>> Once he started his lectures, it was clear many of the students were
> > >>> in the same situation as I was. There were so many diagrams and
> notes
> > >>> written on the white board by lunch time, the board was black. We
> had
> > >>> to enlist the facilities staff to bring in industrial white board
> > >>> cleaner, wet wipes, and a roll of napkins to clean the board. Again
> > >>> my notes were filling page after page. He had to stop after every
> > >>> topic and explain it in at least 3 different ways so everyone
> > >>> understood it. I can now safely say, QoS is not as scary as I made
> it
> > >>> out to be. I think class went until 10 or 11 on day 3.
> > >>>
> > >>> Day 4: RIP, BGP, MPLS - The grueling pace was starting to take its
> > >>> toll, however, Narbik found a way to make RIP interesting. BGP was
> > >>> covered thoroughly and generated quite a few diagrams and questions.
> > >>> MPLS was a topic almost the entire class had listed as a weak point.
> > >>> Narbik explained MPLS in a way a kindergartener would be able to
> > >>> understand. Then he proceeded to draw out a diagram and explain the
> > >>> process step by step. Again, very through and Narbik's animated way
> > >>> of teaching made complex concepts seem simple.
> > >>>
> > >>> Day 5: Multicast v4/v6, questions, wrap-up - Narbik covers
> > >>> Multicasting from a practical point of view. This made it very easy
> > >>> to see what the different components of Multicasting contribute
> > >>> towards the overall infrastructure. Once this was done, we discussed
> > >>> a few other topics from the previous lectures and wrapped up for the
> > >>> week. From looking around, everyone seemed to be in a daze from
> > >>> information overload.
> > >>>
> > >>> Narbik s boot camp is designed to make the students an expert, not
> > >>> just achieve the number. The lectures are geared towards teaching
> the
> > >>> concepts and underlying fundamentals on CCIE Lab exam. It will push
> > >>> you closer to passing the lab by enabling you to understand the
> > >>> pitfalls and end-goals for seemingly minute details within the tasks.
> > >>> This method of teaching also made me more confident about resolving
> > >>> any scenario thrown in for the troubleshooting portion of the lab.
> > >>> Each topic is covered in depth highlighting abnormal behaviors,
> > >>> commands used to configure and change behaviors, hidden features
> and
> > >>> alternative (non-conventional) ways to achieve desired behaviors.
> > >>> Interactions among functions of IOS are covered in depth so the
> > >>> student understands what each one does and why certain features have
> > >>> to be used in tandem or configured through an AS. I ve only listed
> > >>> the high level topics in my review but Narbik covers the full suite
> of
> > >>> CCIE lab topics throughout the lectures.
> > >>>
> > >>> The most surprising aspect of the class was his style of teaching;
> > >>> this was not covered by any of the previous materials I found before
> > >>> deciding to attend. Narbik style of teaching the CCIE boot camp
> makes
> > >>> him the most animated and entertaining trainer I have ever met. He
> > >>> incorporates jokes and anecdotes into every one of his lectures. He
> > >>> manages to keep the energy level steady from day 1 to day 5. There
> > >>> were moments where the whole class was laughing so hard we had to
> take
> > >>> a break. He spends most of the 12 hour class on his feet during
> > >>> lectures and walking around to do real-time explanations during labs.
> > >>> Some concepts I had difficulty grasping through reading and bullet
> > >>> point led explanations related to QoS (Routing and Switching),
> > >>> Security, IGP/EGP and Multicasting were presented with humor and made
> > >>> so rudimentary that I walked away ready to tackle any lab scenario.
> I
> > >>> plan to re-take the class just for the entertainment value.
> > >>>
> > >>> Throughout the class, Narbik provides his contact information and
> > >>> requests we contact him with any questions during or after the class
> > >>> regardless of time. His philosophy is that the real relationship
> with
> > >>> the students begins on the last day of the boot camp and continues
> > >>> even after getting the coveted number. Narbik also provided a study
> > >>> plan geared towards passing the CCIE Lab exam. If I can muster the
> > >>> discipline to follow his plan, my number is not far away.
> > >>>
> > >>> Narbik s CCIE boot camp is not for the faint of heart. You MUST know
> > >>> the basics at a CCNP or higher level before attending. His classes
> > >>> are not designed for those who have a passing interest in the CCIE.
> > >>> It is designed for the seriously committed and will stretch your
> > >>> knowledge of the Cisco IOS and routing/switching concepts; it may
> even
> > >>> humble your understanding of the IOS and CCIE topics. You WILL learn
> > >>> something new about every Cisco CCIE Lab Blueprint topic!
> > >>>
> > >>> After attending this class, I can confirm Narbik teaches only using
> > >>> the whiteboard and hand drawn diagrams. Narbik s approach to
> teaching
> > >>> the CCIE is unlike any of the other classes I ve taken over my 2+
> > >>> years of studying. There is no single source of materials for
> earning
> > >>> the CCIE certification. As part of the current crop of CCIE
> > >>> candidates, I feel blessed with the availability of high quality
> > >>> materials from well reputed vendors. The best way to pass the lab
> > >>> exam is to use a combination of the highest regarded materials as
> > >>> study tools. Each one contributes to a niche of learning.
> > >>>
> > >>> However, I highly recommend every CCIE candidate attend at least one
> > >>> of Narbik s classes. I ve been able to clearly understand some of
> the
> > >>> concepts that eluded me from books, DocCD and other materials. At
> the
> > >>> very least, attending Narbik s class will give you an excellent gauge
> > >>> of your readiness to attempt the lab exam.
> > >>>
> > >>> Bottom line, if you want to pass the CCIE Lab, attend a boot camp by
> > >>> Narbik.
> > >>>
> > >>> As far as Narbik s ability to recall IOS commands from memory - It
> s
> > >>> official, Narbik is an extension of the Cisco IOS Command reference.
> > >>>
> > >>> Review by George Philip.
> > >>> gphilip88_at_gmail.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>
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> > >> --
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> > >> Raghav
> > >>
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