Well, heck... If your management approves I'd do exactly that! Come
here for one class and then fly to Europe for another! Keeps things
fresh and varied...
The only problem is that it's two different vendors, so the "retake"
policy wouldn't really apply there for the classes!
Awesome pizza in Chicago, but you'll likely find better beers/ales over
in Europe!
Scott
Charles Carmichael wrote:
Thank you Scott. Where can I find a link to the details for management
approval? Are you and Marko working together? I understand traveling is a
costly expense. I am fine if he cannot make it. Or if my management does
not approve such a expense I can see Marko in Europe. Is this a possibility
as well?
Many Thanks,
Charles
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
So how is your schedule for coming to Chicago the last week in May? I'm
pretty sure we won't be able to get Marko to show up there as well, but I
can work on that if it would make you feel better!
That soon enough?
Scott
Charles Carmichael wrote:
I have learned a lot from this thread and appreciate everyones input. It
seems though that there is another way that one can take the lab again as
seen here: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/46561 .
I have basically narrowed my search down after a comparison of web sites. I
would like to possibly sit a class with you Scott. Can you tell me when
your next class will be? Also, how about a class with Marko? Time is
becoming narrow for me.
Many Thanks....again,
Charles
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
Well... Ok... Let's be more specific...
The only way you can sit for a CCIE lab again is:
1. Take a new track
2. Let your CCIE expire for god knows what reason, and retake the lab exam
again...
Being that #2 implies a three year process of doing absolutely nothing, I
would highly advise against it.
But technically, you are correct, you COULD sit the same track a second
time.
Even though we technically "qualify" by passing the written exam again for
recertification, the system will not (at least never used to) let you take
the lab exam again for something which you are already certified in.
Scott
john matijevic wrote:
Good Evening Gentlemen,
As a former CCIE that is currently in process of recertification.
First off I would like to correct Mr. Anthony Sequeira.
As stated in earlier thread.
"Once we pass the lab exam for a track, we are not permitted to take the
lab exam again"
According to Cisco recertification documenation: http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
Recertification Details
To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to pass
one of the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE
lab exam, or either of the CCDE exams.
It appears that a CCIE can recertify by passing the lab again.
Im not implying or trying to say that you should go by weather there
is a current CCIE with a training vendor, I agree with the other folks
in saying that there are many great instructors as I have been a
student of many on this list. I will be more active as I will have to
retake the written and the lab exam again.
Sincerely,
John Matijevic
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
As usual, I agree 100% with what Scott is saying. No vendor or person
is going to hand you a CCIE. We can all help provide you with
materials and great training that will allow you to acquire the skills
necessary to earn one.
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> <swm_at_emanon.com> <swm_at_emanon.com> <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
Passing the lab today versus last year versus 10 years ago has nothing
to do with whether they know what they are doing.
And that's the point in that it shouldn't be part of the criteria!
Marko is a great guy, and very bright... NO doubt about that. but he's
not going to teach you the "exam", he's going to teach you the
technologies and how to work through them so that YOU can pass the lab.
It's the same thing that I would do. It's the same thing Anthony would
do. It's the same thing Narbik would do.
Experience, as you noted, is a good thing to look at! And, this is
Marko's second CCIE anyway. But I think he was smart before he got his
first one! ;)
Scott
Charles Carmichael wrote:
I understand what you're saying Anthony. I respect experience, that's why I
mentioned Mr. Morris. But I am confused. Do you mean that someone that has
just passed doesn't know what they are doing? I just want the most current
training that will be relevant to me. I'm sure the intentions either way
are best. Also, can someone tell me when Scott Morris will be teaching the
next routing and switching bootcamp.
Danke,
Charles
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> <asequeira_at_ine.com> <asequeira_at_ine.com> <asequeira_at_ine.com> wrote:
Hi Charles!
Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions regarding the
INE materials or more specifically, the bootcamp.
I think that basing this very important decision on which organization has
instructors that are so new to the Routing and Switching track that they
have passed since October 19th, 2009 is not the correct approach.
Warmest Regards,
Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
Senior CCIE Instructor http://www.INE.com
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
Toll Free: 877-224-8987
Outside US: 775-826-4344
On May 11, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Charles Carmichael wrote:
I am planning on a bootcamp in Germany Area. I am looking at IPexpert
and
INE. I can travel abroad if needed. My question is, what bootcamp
should I
take? I have heard that IPexpert is the only company that has instructor
which has passed the new version of CCIE lab but I like Scott Morris and
I
think he owns INE or something. Any recommendations?
Many Thanks,
Charles
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