Re: Planning a bootcamp

Hilarious....

Sorry.

:-)

On May 12, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Tyson Scott wrote:

> Anthony,
>
> Where is this coming from? Petr and I were talking about the lab exam (As
> was most of this string), poking back and forth. Sometimes reading the
> first line in an email and responding makes for silly responses. I wasn't
> speaking of the written for retaking ;)
>
> Regards,
>
> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Sequeira [mailto:asequeira_at_ine.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:01 PM
> To: Tyson Scott
> Cc: 'Petr Lapukhov'; 'Kambiz Agahian'; 'john matijevic'; 'Joe Astorino';
> 'Scott Morris'; 'Charles Carmichael'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>
> Every time I think I am out of the thread....they pull me back in!
>
> Just kidding! :-)
>
> Hi TS!
>
> There are some interesting rules in place on the written I have noticed.
> There is a required delay period implemented after the lab pass, then if you
> fail it once you try recert, a delay period, then if you pass it, another
> delay period kicks in.
>
> I have always assumed these are in place to help protect the integrity.
>
> As an author of written prep materials, I always visit (and pass :-) ) the
> R&S written about every 6 months just to keep fresh with the style and
> scope. I have never been denied access to the written with that type of
> frequency.
>
> On May 12, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Tyson Scott wrote:
>
>> Petr,
>>
>> I know we are beating a dead topic here but have you recently taken the
> R&S
>> written? I tried with my SP when I had taken it but thinking about it
> more;
>> I think I tried to schedule just after having passed the exam and I think
> I
>> got something very similar. But I can see the schedule for all the tracks
> I
>> have taken a written for in the past.
>>
>> But I know I have been told no in the past by one of the proctor's about
>> retaking tests, just curious about the scheduling site. I don't currently
>> have any written exams that would be valid for me to test.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: petrsoft_at_gmail.com [mailto:petrsoft_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Petr
>> Lapukhov
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:17 PM
>> To: Tyson Scott
>> Cc: Kambiz Agahian; john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira; Joe Astorino; Scott
>> Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>>
>> Oh, I put the prospective lab date in September (out of the 90 days
>> range) and this is what I got:
>>
>> ERROR: 5.6.8.D: You missed the deadline. lab must be passed within
>> three years of passing the written exam. (No Data Updated).
>>
>> FAIL :)
>>
>> 2010/5/12 Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>:
>>> I'll pay 25% if you want to take your R&S again ;)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: petrsoft_at_gmail.com [mailto:petrsoft_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Petr
>>> Lapukhov
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:09 PM
>>> To: Tyson Scott
>>> Cc: Kambiz Agahian; john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira; Joe Astorino; Scott
>>> Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>>> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>>>
>>> Wonder if it worth paying $1400 to see the request being rejected or
>>> approved :)
>>>
>>> 2010/5/12 Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>:
>>>> You can select it but from previous experience they will reject the
>>>> scheduling request. I did this when I was working on my SP recently.
>>>> Unless something has changed very recently.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208
>>>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
>>>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: petrsoft_at_gmail.com [mailto:petrsoft_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Petr
>>>> Lapukhov
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:42 PM
>>>> To: Tyson Scott
>>>> Cc: Kambiz Agahian; john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira; Joe Astorino;
> Scott
>>>> Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>>>> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>>>>
>>>> Surprisingly enough, I just opened CCIE lab scheduler and found I can
>>>> select the CCIE R&S lab again. Didn't try other labs, as I have to
>>>> re-login using my other written lab date and score, etc. However, as
>>>> for recertification I'd rather take the written test (looking for CCDE
>>>> written), as paying $350 out of my pocket seems more reasonable than
>>>> $1400. Why fun is always expensive?! ;)
>>>>
>>>> PS
>>>> I went as far as "credit card payment" where I reasonably decided to
> stop
>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> 2010/5/12 Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>:
>>>>> Taking the lab of another CCIE track can renew a previous CCIE you
> have.
>>>> We
>>>>> have asked in the past. You are not allowed to take the same exam
> again
>>>>> unless you let your certification lapse. Who wants to do that ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony was spot on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>>>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Kambiz Agahian
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:09 AM
>>>>> To: john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira
>>>>> Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>>>>> Subject: RE: Planning a bootcamp
>>>>>
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd open a case with the Cert support team to verify my interpretation.
>>>>> In cases like this no one wants to take a risk.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>> Kambiz Agahian
>>>>> CCIE (R&S), CCSI, WAASSE, RSSSE
>>>>> Technical Instructor
>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
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>>>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
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>>>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.c
>>>>> om] On Behalf Of john matijevic
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:57 PM
>>>>> To: Anthony Sequeira
>>>>> Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>>>>> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony,
>>>>> According to Cisco website again:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> CCIEs Are Required to Recertify Every Two Years
>>>>> Active CCIE status shows your commitment to maintaining expert-level
>>>>> knowledge in an industry critical to the success of virtually every
>>>>> organization. CCIEs are encouraged to continually expand their
> technical
>>>>> knowledge and are required to* pass a recertification exam* every two
>>>>> years.
>>>>> If you do not complete your recertification before the deadlines, your
>>>>> CCIE
>>>>> certification will be suspended and you and your employer will lose the
>>>>> benefits associated with your expert status. You have one year to
>>>>> reinstate
>>>>> your CCIE status before you becomes inactive and must begin the
>>>>> certification process all over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to pass
>>>>> one of
>>>>> the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE lab
> exam,
>>>>> or
>>>>> either of the CCDE exams.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can provide documentation stating otherwise this is directly
>>>>> from
>>>>> Cisco's website and applies to all CCIE tracks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personnaly believe that CCIE should have to recertify by taking the
>>>>> lab
>>>>> again. Probably would eliminate many becuase of the cost but in the end
>>>>> I
>>>>> believe you will have stronger engineers, and since the lab exam topics
>>>>> are
>>>>> closely related to job functions of Senior level engineer.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if you can provide documentation stating otherwise. I would have to
>>>>> go
>>>>> by what Cisco has documented on the website, unless they posted
>>>>> inaccurate
>>>>> information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>> John Matijevic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> The lab exam you are referring to is in another track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So - the only way that I can take the R&S exam again is to let my R&S
>>>>> certification expire.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 11, 2010, at 11:39 PM, john matijevic wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good Evening Gentlemen,
>>>>>>> As a former CCIE that is currently in process of recertification.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First off I would like to correct Mr. Anthony Sequeira.
>>>>>>> As stated in earlier thread.
>>>>>>> "Once we pass the lab exam for a track, we are not permitted to take
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> lab exam again"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to Cisco recertification documenation:
>>>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
>>>>>>> Recertification Details
>>>>>>> To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to
>>>>> pass
>>>>>>> one of the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE
>>>>>>> lab exam, or either of the CCDE exams.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It appears that a CCIE can recertify by passing the lab again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im not implying or trying to say that you should go by weather there
>>>>>>> is a current CCIE with a training vendor, I agree with the other
>>>>> folks
>>>>>>> in saying that there are many great instructors as I have been a
>>>>>>> student of many on this list. I will be more active as I will have to
>>>>>>> retake the written and the lab exam again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> John Matijevic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Joe Astorino
>>>>> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> As usual, I agree 100% with what Scott is saying. No vendor or
>>>>> person
>>>>>>>> is going to hand you a CCIE. We can all help provide you with
>>>>>>>> materials and great training that will allow you to acquire the
>>>>> skills
>>>>>>>> necessary to earn one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Passing the lab today versus last year versus 10 years ago has
>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>> to do with whether they know what they are doing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And that's the point in that it shouldn't be part of the criteria!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marko is a great guy, and very bright... NO doubt about that. but
>>>>> he's
>>>>>>>>> not going to teach you the "exam", he's going to teach you the
>>>>>>>>> technologies and how to work through them so that YOU can pass the
>>>>> lab.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's the same thing that I would do. It's the same thing Anthony
>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> do. It's the same thing Narbik would do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Experience, as you noted, is a good thing to look at! And, this is
>>>>>>>>> Marko's second CCIE anyway. But I think he was smart before he got
>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>> first one! ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand what you're saying Anthony. I respect experience,
>>>>> that's
>>>>> why I
>>>>>>>>> mentioned Mr. Morris. But I am confused. Do you mean that
>>>>> someone
>>>>> that has
>>>>>>>>> just passed doesn't know what they are doing? I just want the
>>>>> most
>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>> training that will be relevant to me. I'm sure the intentions
>>>>> either
>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> are best. Also, can someone tell me when Scott Morris will be
>>>>> teaching the
>>>>>>>>> next routing and switching bootcamp.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Danke,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Anthony Sequeira
>>>>> <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Charles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions
>>>>> regarding
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> INE materials or more specifically, the bootcamp.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that basing this very important decision on which
>>>>> organization has
>>>>>>>>> instructors that are so new to the Routing and Switching track
>>>>> that
>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> have passed since October 19th, 2009 is not the correct
>>>>> approach.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>>>>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor http://www.INE.com
>>>>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 11, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am planning on a bootcamp in Germany Area. I am looking at
>>>>> IPexpert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> INE. I can travel abroad if needed. My question is, what
>>>>> bootcamp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> should I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> take? I have heard that IPexpert is the only company that has
>>>>> instructor
>>>>>>>>> which has passed the new version of CCIE lab but I like Scott
>>>>> Morris and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> think he owns INE or something. Any recommendations?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Charles
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Petr Lapukhov, petr_at_INE.com
>>>> CCIE #16379 (R&S/Security/SP/Voice)
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