Re: Planning a bootcamp

Oh, I put the prospective lab date in September (out of the 90 days
range) and this is what I got:

ERROR: 5.6.8.D: You missed the deadline. lab must be passed within
three years of passing the written exam. (No Data Updated).

FAIL :)

2010/5/12 Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>:
> I'll pay 25% if you want to take your R&S again ;)
>
> Regards,
>
> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: petrsoft_at_gmail.com [mailto:petrsoft_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Petr
> Lapukhov
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:09 PM
> To: Tyson Scott
> Cc: Kambiz Agahian; john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira; Joe Astorino; Scott
> Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>
> Wonder if it worth paying $1400 to see the request being rejected or
> approved :)
>
> 2010/5/12 Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>:
>> You can select it but from previous experience they will reject the
>> scheduling request. I did this when I was working on my SP recently.
>> Unless something has changed very recently.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208
>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: petrsoft_at_gmail.com [mailto:petrsoft_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Petr
>> Lapukhov
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:42 PM
>> To: Tyson Scott
>> Cc: Kambiz Agahian; john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira; Joe Astorino; Scott
>> Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>>
>> Surprisingly enough, I just opened CCIE lab scheduler and found I can
>> select the CCIE R&S lab again. Didn't try other labs, as I have to
>> re-login using my other written lab date and score, etc. However, as
>> for recertification I'd rather take the written test (looking for CCDE
>> written), as paying $350 out of my pocket seems more reasonable than
>> $1400. Why fun is always expensive?! ;)
>>
>> PS
>> I went as far as "credit card payment" where I reasonably decided to stop
> :)
>>
>> 2010/5/12 Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com>:
>>> Taking the lab of another CCIE track can renew a previous CCIE you have.
>> We
>>> have asked in the past. You are not allowed to take the same exam again
>>> unless you let your certification lapse. Who wants to do that ;)
>>>
>>> Anthony was spot on.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>> Mailto: tscott_at_ipexpert.com
>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Kambiz Agahian
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:09 AM
>>> To: john matijevic; Anthony Sequeira
>>> Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>>> Subject: RE: Planning a bootcamp
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> I'd open a case with the Cert support team to verify my interpretation.
>>> In cases like this no one wants to take a risk.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------
>>> Kambiz Agahian
>>> CCIE (R&S), CCSI, WAASSE, RSSSE
>>> Technical Instructor
>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>> Email: kagahian_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>> International: +1-702-968-5100
>>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.c
>>> om] On Behalf Of john matijevic
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:57 PM
>>> To: Anthony Sequeira
>>> Cc: Joe Astorino; Scott Morris; Charles Carmichael; Cisco certification
>>> Subject: Re: Planning a bootcamp
>>>
>>> Anthony,
>>> According to Cisco website again:
>>>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> CCIEs Are Required to Recertify Every Two Years
>>> Active CCIE status shows your commitment to maintaining expert-level
>>> knowledge in an industry critical to the success of virtually every
>>> organization. CCIEs are encouraged to continually expand their technical
>>> knowledge and are required to* pass a recertification exam* every two
>>> years.
>>> If you do not complete your recertification before the deadlines, your
>>> CCIE
>>> certification will be suspended and you and your employer will lose the
>>> benefits associated with your expert status. You have one year to
>>> reinstate
>>> your CCIE status before you becomes inactive and must begin the
>>> certification process all over again.
>>>
>>> To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to pass
>>> one of
>>> the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE lab exam,
>>> or
>>> either of the CCDE exams.
>>>
>>> If you can provide documentation stating otherwise this is directly
>>> from
>>> Cisco's website and applies to all CCIE tracks.
>>>
>>> I personnaly believe that CCIE should have to recertify by taking the
>>> lab
>>> again. Probably would eliminate many becuase of the cost but in the end
>>> I
>>> believe you will have stronger engineers, and since the lab exam topics
>>> are
>>> closely related to job functions of Senior level engineer.
>>>
>>> But if you can provide documentation stating otherwise. I would have to
>>> go
>>> by what Cisco has documented on the website, unless they posted
>>> inaccurate
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> John Matijevic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> The lab exam you are referring to is in another track.
>>>>
>>>> So - the only way that I can take the R&S exam again is to let my R&S
>>> certification expire.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 11, 2010, at 11:39 PM, john matijevic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good Evening Gentlemen,
>>>>> As a former CCIE that is currently in process of recertification.
>>>>>
>>>>> First off I would like to correct Mr. Anthony Sequeira.
>>>>> As stated in earlier thread.
>>>>> "Once we pass the lab exam for a track, we are not permitted to take
>>> the
>>>>> lab exam again"
>>>>>
>>>>> According to Cisco recertification documenation:
>>>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/recert/index.html
>>>>> Recertification Details
>>>>> To maintain active status, every 24 months CCIEs are required to
>>> pass
>>>>> one of the following: any CCIE written exam of their choosing, a CCIE
>>>>> lab exam, or either of the CCDE exams.
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears that a CCIE can recertify by passing the lab again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Im not implying or trying to say that you should go by weather there
>>>>> is a current CCIE with a training vendor, I agree with the other
>>> folks
>>>>> in saying that there are many great instructors as I have been a
>>>>> student of many on this list. I will be more active as I will have to
>>>>> retake the written and the lab exam again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> John Matijevic
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Joe Astorino
>>> <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> As usual, I agree 100% with what Scott is saying. No vendor or
>>> person
>>>>>> is going to hand you a CCIE. We can all help provide you with
>>>>>> materials and great training that will allow you to acquire the
>>> skills
>>>>>> necessary to earn one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Passing the lab today versus last year versus 10 years ago has
>>> nothing
>>>>>>> to do with whether they know what they are doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And that's the point in that it shouldn't be part of the criteria!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marko is a great guy, and very bright... NO doubt about that. but
>>> he's
>>>>>>> not going to teach you the "exam", he's going to teach you the
>>>>>>> technologies and how to work through them so that YOU can pass the
>>> lab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's the same thing that I would do. It's the same thing Anthony
>>> would
>>>>>>> do. It's the same thing Narbik would do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Experience, as you noted, is a good thing to look at! And, this is
>>>>>>> Marko's second CCIE anyway. But I think he was smart before he got
>>> his
>>>>>>> first one! ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand what you're saying Anthony. I respect experience,
>>> that's
>>> why I
>>>>>>> mentioned Mr. Morris. But I am confused. Do you mean that
>>> someone
>>> that has
>>>>>>> just passed doesn't know what they are doing? I just want the
>>> most
>>> current
>>>>>>> training that will be relevant to me. I'm sure the intentions
>>> either
>>> way
>>>>>>> are best. Also, can someone tell me when Scott Morris will be
>>> teaching the
>>>>>>> next routing and switching bootcamp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Danke,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Anthony Sequeira
>>> <asequeira_at_ine.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Charles!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions
>>> regarding
>>> the
>>>>>>> INE materials or more specifically, the bootcamp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that basing this very important decision on which
>>> organization has
>>>>>>> instructors that are so new to the Routing and Switching track
>>> that
>>> they
>>>>>>> have passed since October 19th, 2009 is not the correct
>>> approach.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor http://www.INE.com
>>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>>>>> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>>>>>>> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 11, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Charles Carmichael wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am planning on a bootcamp in Germany Area. I am looking at
>>> IPexpert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> INE. I can travel abroad if needed. My question is, what
>>> bootcamp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> should I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> take? I have heard that IPexpert is the only company that has
>>> instructor
>>>>>>> which has passed the new version of CCIE lab but I like Scott
>>> Morris and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> think he owns INE or something. Any recommendations?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charles
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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CCIE #16379 (R&S/Security/SP/Voice)
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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