FW: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track

Hmmm...one year has passed and?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim [mailto:timcurci_at_roadrunner.com]
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:39 AM
To: 'Scott Morris'; 'Mohammed Gazzaz'
Cc: 'ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com'; 'ccielab_at_groupstudy.com';
'security_at_groupstudy.com'
Subject: RE: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track

Scott-

I do not think that anyone is questioning whether one should understand what
is being asked vis-a-vis the blueprint...although I specifically question
the timing of the release of the change in format of the security exam since
the blueprint has recently been revised (i.e. more than 30 days notice of
the change should have been given). For those taking the exam within the
next 90 days this is not what they paid for.

Correct me if I am wrong, however, if one "fails" this 4-5 question
mini-quiz, then one fails the lab. I am not sure what a passing score on
this "quiz" is, nor will I ever know :). The whole thing seems somewhat
subjective to me.

Four to Five questions is not a statistically valid pool of questions that
should invalidate the results of an 8-hour lab exam.

If you fail the 4-5 question exam then Cisco should send you home and refund
your $1,400.

This is getting silly.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:37 PM
To: Mohammed Gazzaz
Cc: ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track

They're more about the application of knowledge. And that knowledge of
protocols is what should be cemented more in your brain now from
practicing for the lab exam. The "blueprint" covered by these
open-ended questions is the lab blueprint. Although it's written in
nature, it's about the application/knowledge of technologies.

IMHO if you are practicing enough about how the different technologies
really work rather than concentrating on any particular command-line
memorization you'll have no problem at all with these things!

We are compiling a list of sample questions/ideas and things of that
nature at the moment, and will be releasing materials in order to help
refresh your memory on things and drive away that fear, uncertainty and
doubt!

*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.

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Mohammed Gazzaz wrote:
> You are right, I should not be afraid but I am.
>
> I passed the written test last year and managed to score only 74%.
> I don't really have a good memory and it really hurts to fail the lab
because of 4 simple questions.
>
>
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:57:29 -0400
> Subject: Re: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
> From: ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com
> To: mgazzaz_at_hotmail.com
> CC: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
>
> Technically if you passed the written - you are there already - that test
is filled with OEQ.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Mohammed Gazzaz <mgazzaz_at_hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> What Study materials do you guys
> recommend? and are 2 months enough to prepare for the OEQ?
>
>
>
> Will those be enough ? or do I need more materials?
>
>
> Yusif's book
>
> DOC CD
>
> CCIE Security Exam Quick Reference Sheets
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>
>
>
>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; security_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Open-Ended Questions in the CCIE Security Track
>> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 02:46:38 +0100
>>
>
>
>
>> Starting the 15th June:
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html
>>
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>
>>
>
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