Re: Appeal to All Current CCIEs

What I'm concerned about is the fact that this option to waive OEQ by
allowing a 360 Instructor to give that option is that it divides the
people who have the resources to attend a 360 program from others who
do not.

If there's an option to wave a portion of the test, it shouldn't based
on who can afford to attend the class or not, I see it as almost
hurting the people who can't afford to go to one of these classes. If
Cisco is willing to waive a part of the test it should be based on
proven knowledge and skill and not by paying a cost. Guess that's what
most people mean by buying your numbers...

My 2 cents, I got my numbers by taking the OEQ version last march
2009, so I don't have any personal interest right now.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Tyson Scott <tscott_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
> Actually OEQ is only 4 points but you still have to pass it.
>
> Trouble is 20-30 points
> Configuration is 70-75 points
>
> You need to put into perspective that although it is a given it is still a
> very small portion of the test.
>
> Regards,
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Jonny English
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:01 AM
> To: Patrick Galligan
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Appeal to All Current CCIEs
>
> yeah, that was my point. If you get to skip the OEQ you get 21 point
> headstart.
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Patrick Galligan
> <pgalligan_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> The OEQ's make it harder.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > giving away 21 points doesn't make the exam harder, it makes it easier.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Patrick Galligan <pgalligan_at_gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Why would current CCIE's care? Anything that makes it harder for more
>> >> people to get the CCIE cert, makes us more valuable to employers :)
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Nahskur Udniraht
>> >> <expertinternetwork_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Dear All,
>> >> >
>> >> > According to recent announcement from Cisco ...
>> >> > they let some set of students (C360) to ignore OEQ section in lab
>> exam.
>> >> >
>> >> > I ask/appeal all the current CCIEs to go against this decision.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, Cisco owns CCIE, it is their trademark and they are controlling.
>> >> > But you made it. You made it beautiful.You wake long nights to make
> it
>> >> > happen.
>> >> > You did all the hard work, scarification and dedication to pass the
>> >> > exams.
>> >> > You know how hard was it. You have gone through.
>> >> >
>> >> > You can save the value of CCIE.
>> >> > Because you all earned. You did not buy.
>> >> >
>> >> > Pass the word ... "earned not bought".
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Nahskur Udniraht
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > PS
>> >> > I am not CCIE certified and going attempt my first Lab in coming
> July.
>> >> > I do not know whether my request is fair or it is violating NDA.
>> >> >
>> >> >
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