Re: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.

From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:48:53 -0700

Brandon,

I never stated that you cant go to another vendor, IPX and INE are
fantastic vendors offering CCIE program for a long time.

BTW, I do teach the lower certs, like BGP and MPLS and the cost of my class
is one of the lowest in the market with FREE retakes.

Cm,

I am sorry that you have changed your mind about attending my boot camp, but
it does NOT matter what I believe or what I dont believe, this is whats
happened and if I agree or disagree it wont make a difference, so please
understand that what I am saying here is to cool down and study, dont
poison your blood.

I am NOT changing my style of teaching for ANYONE, I am what I am, and I
like to teach, so just because I joined the 360 program and Cisco came up
with his promotion, it does not mean that I am NOT the same person.

In a way I dont agree with this promotion because its NOT fair to the
people that like to study on their own, and NOT because some of the vendors
that have NOT joined the program. They had an option to provide a different
view/perspective to their students and they choose NOT to do that.

Just because you did not go through the OEQs, it does NOT mean that you are
a less knowledgeable person. Scott or bunch of others have NOT gone through
the OEQs, does that mean that they dont know what they are talking about?

I never cared for the OEQs anyways, and in a way I am glad that my students
wont have to go through the OEQs. Its a choice that you have to make. If
you were one of those people that did not care for OEQs, now you have a
chance NOT to do them.

 Ryan,

Yes I am teaching a class, I dont know where you are from, but I let my
students go to lunch and while they are at lunch, I reply to some of my
e-mails, what the heck is wrong with that??????????????? I am in Poland and
if you *care *to know about the class, let me know and I will get you to
talk to them, you will be surprised, but if you dont care, why make a
statement????

Pass4sure????? Just because the students dont have to do the OEQs????

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Alexei Monastyrnyi
<alexeim73_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Mate,
> it is not exactly 8 hours, it is 0.5 + 2 + 5.5, so if you are good at TS
> then good for you. First hand experience, when I passed my lab I made it
> in 6 hours, there was no TS or OEQ back then so I had time to go time
> and again over my configs and CLI outputs (though it seemed all correct
> to me, didn't find any issues). If they put the same amount of tasks in
> 5.5 format of configuration section, each 30 minutes would make
> difference, especially considering new all-on-one-screen format. I am
> not good at all-on-one screen thing, I'd need a printed workbook, and
> not only because of weak sight but also because it is faster and more
> relaxed to one's mind to look up on the screen for CLI windows and down
> to the workbook for diagrams and tasks. It is indeed a matter of habit,
> but almost everyone has this habit. So new format would scary me, slow
> me down, and 30 minutes extra would NOT go amiss. :-)
>
> Probably vendors out there should start issuing their workbooks in such
> all-on-one-screen format to help people get familiar with environment. :-)
>
> My .02 AUD incl GST.
>
> A.
>
> On 2010-03-16 16:01, Patrick Galligan wrote:
> > If you really need the 8hrs, you didn't prepare properly.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Rolf<schaerer_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think it's not about buying your CCIE or not. Let's face it, if
> >> you're prepared and ready for the lab you should be able to answer the
> >> four questions - you can miss one, but the rules should be fair...
> >> It really depends what the rules are for the waiver qualified
> >> candidates. If they do get the whole 8 hours for 2 sections of the
> >> exam, you can practically say that with the 360 program, you can buy
> >> yourself more configuration time, and this can be crucial...
> >>
> >> Just my 2 Rappen
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Rolf
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