Re: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.

I don't think it's Cisco's intention to devalue the CCIE certification.

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 17:41, Dark Fiber <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Soon they will just give out your # after the second class without
> having to take the lab!
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Jones <shaunjon29_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> How do you know? Are you part of the Cisco 360 program? Please give us
>> concrete evidence to your statement.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dark Fiber [mailto:darkfiber08_at_gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:37 AM
>> To: Jones
>> Cc: James Jones; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.
>>
>> It won't matter anyways, people aren't passing the lab with the
>> 360 program... Giving them the waiver isn't going to help because the
>> material isn't close to preparing them for the rest of the lab
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Jones <shaunjon29_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Colleges and Universities do the same thing with testing out of classes
>>> versus taking them. I don't see a problem with this. Cisco is just taking
>>> 360 to a whole new level. Keep up the good work!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> James Jones
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:02 AM
>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: OEQ Waiver program! No MORE OEQ for Cisco 360 students.
>>>
>>> I generally prefer to sit idly by on the sidelines and try to glean from
>>> this
>>> board the nuggets of information useful to my CCIE studies.B There are
>> many
>>> intelligent and articulate instructors willing to assist those in need of
>>> technical assistance.B For them I am grateful.
>>> B
>>> I am willing to forego the tons of useless email from those using the
>> forum
>>> as
>>> a place to vent their frustrations or pound their chests in a glory
>> seeking
>>> attempt while I look for those nuggets of useful information.B I
>> generally
>>> dismiss those useless emails as I would the ranting of an adolescent that
>>> feels unjustly wronged based on their immaturity and lack of life
>>> experience.
>>> B
>>> If Cisco decides that they can assure that the requirements for the core
>>> knowledge can be met through a specific learning program then so be it.B
>> I
>>> have not read it as take the 360 program and get a free pass.B As I
>>> understand it, take the 360 program, prove to the instructor your
>>> understanding (answer three of four questions correctly, maybe) and you
>> are
>>> exempted from taking that part of the exam again.
>>> B
>>> It may not be a direct comparison but, it has several similarities.B When
>> I
>>> got my motorcycle license, there were a couple of options.B First, was to
>>> go
>>> to the DPS office and take the written exam and, then schedule a driving
>>> test
>>> that was graded by an officer.B Second, was to take the written at the
>> DPS
>>> office and, take a three day safety course that consisted of 1.5 days of
>>> instructions and 1.5 days of riding instruction.B This course was
>> approved
>>> by
>>> DPS and one must demonstrate their riding proficiency at the end of the
>>> class.
>>> B
>>> The training course exempted one from taking the driving test again.B
>> Both
>>> consisted of the same requirements to pass, riding proficiency and a
>> written
>>> exam.B Does the fact that the tests were administered by separate trusted
>>> entities make one less valuable than the other?
>>> B
>>> I am sure that I have offended someone and there will be a rash of
>> responses
>>> telling me how wrong I am.B Perhaps that was my intent.B Maybe, this was
>>> just my opportunity to dust off my b shit stirring stickb and incite
>> those
>>> that feel the need to rant about their perceived injustice.B Either way,
>>> let
>>> the ranting begin.
>>> B
>>> As I have heard it said b Life is not fair.B If it were, we would all be
>>> living in grass huts with dirt floors, or wondering where our next meal
>> was
>>> coming from.B Be grateful it isnb tb .
>>>
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