Re: Experienced Guys Please advice Me

Or they can't even troubleshoot their labs! That's my favorite moral booster
:)

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jack Router <pan.router_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, you can recognize them when they answer your question with "we will
> talk about this later" and it never happens :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> darth router
> Sent: 14-Feb-10 15:46
> To: Tony Schaffran (GS)
> Cc: Larry Hadrava; Mark Szwed; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Experienced Guys Please advice Me
>
> Not just a joke! I'm not sure where this wonderful phrase came from, but
> it's certainly applicable in education, but hopefully not applicable to
> CCIE
> level training. Ever taken classes run by groups like global knowledge?
> (being unfair picking on them,
> I know), or gone to a technical school? Well I have, and I've had many many
> teachers with no technical background or expertise. They just figured
> teaching the Cisco or Microsoft program was an easy way to make a buck. The
> ability to run a classroom doesn't necessarily translate to being able to
> successfully apply skills in the real world.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Tony Schaffran (GS) <
> groupstudy_at_cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
>
> > It was a joke people.
> >
> > Please try to not take it personally.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Sr. Network Consultant
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
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> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> > From: Larry Hadrava [mailto:larryh12203_at_gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:36 AM
> > To: Tony Schaffran (GS)
> > Cc: Mark Szwed; Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: Experienced Guys Please advice Me
> >
> > Tony:
> > In my 6+ years as a CCIE I have found that even though I am doing a
> > technical engineering job, that I was always also teaching along the way.
> > If
> > I had other engineers working with me I would show them how to do things
> > they were unfamiliar with. When doing post implementation turnover
> > activities to a customer, I would be teaching the customer about the
> > changes, how it worked and how to troubleshoot.
> >
> > My feeling is that a CCIE is also a teacher / mentor by trade. Some have
> an
> > extra gift of being able to teach in a classroom environment and impart
> > knowledge at that level.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Larry Hadrava
> > CCIE #12203
> > Check Out MyBlog: http://ccie12203.wordpress.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Tony Schaffran (GS)
> > <groupstudy_at_cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
> > I am reminded of that saying, "Those that can't do, teach."
> >
> > I am not directing that at anyone here, it is just a saying. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Sr. Network Consultant
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > CCOnlineLabs
> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Mark
> > Szwed
> > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:12 AM
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: Experienced Guys Please advice Me
> >
> > I am working as Network design engineer , writing low level design ,
> > implementing network projects and troubleshooting if the first line ,
> > second and third line are unable to solve .I have an opotunity in my
> > company to become a Network Instructor / Trainer ,pay wise it is the same
> > .But I was thinking hard about this position , only that I am afraid I
> will
> > not be involved in real world project .Do you guys think this being an
> > instructor will help me in advancing my career in any way .What do
> > instructors think ? Guys please advice me.
> >
> > Thank you very much!
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
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