Re: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?

While that may be the case in a perfect world experience does not read your
resume some HR person does whose job it is to find a "CCIE" or "MBA"/other..
 Just like the value of a BS or above it helps get you the interview since
someone told him/her a BS degree is the initial hurdle.

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com> wrote:

From: Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
To: "ChoChan" <cho.chanman_at_gmail.com>
Cc: "Stephen Robinson" <srobinson_at_qtzl.com>, "Scott Morris" <smorris_at_ine.com>,
"darth router" <darklordrouter_at_gmail.com>, "Dark Fiber"
<darkfiber08_at_gmail.com>, "Anthony Faria" <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>, "John
Pelletier" <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>, "Ramanpreet Singh"
<sikandar.raman_at_gmail.com>, "group-study" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "Joseph L.
Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 1:09 AM

I totally agreed with Scott. No cert can beat the experience. The experience
will be the tie breaker.
just to give you an idea - I know a few fresh dynamipper ccie's (R&S of
course) and they are working as a helpdesk operator.

------------------------------
 It's about theperson and their experiences that go along with the knowledge
--------------------------------

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:13 PM, ChoChan <cho.chanman_at_gmail.com> wrote:

You are going to also pee in a cup and get a skin graft sample to confirm
DNA. Don't forget about the hernia test that the receptionist will
administrate for maximum security. Cough. Cough.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of

Stephen Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:37 PM
To: Scott Morris; darth router
Cc: Dark Fiber; Anthony Faria; John Pelletier; Ramanpreet Singh;
group-study; Joseph L. Brunner
Subject: Re: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?

Yeah Scott...

The rest... "stop hate'n and get cha money on"

--
Stephen L. Robinson
srobinson_at_qtzl.com
> From: Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com>
> Organization: Internetwork Expert - CCIE Training
> Reply-To: Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com>
> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:15:14 -0500
> To: darth router <darklordrouter_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: Dark Fiber <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com>, Anthony Faria
<tfaria72_at_gmail.com>,
> John Pelletier <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>, Ramanpreet Singh
> <sikandar.raman_at_gmail.com>, group-study <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>, "Joseph
L.
> Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
> Subject: Re: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
>
>  Blah, blah, blah...   Dude, People have been saying the same thing about
> devaluation for the past 11+ years since I was studying/getting/got my
> CCIE!
>
> Amazingly enough, there's still plenty of jobs...  There still plenty of
> $$ to go with them...  There is still plenty of people looking for CCIEs.
>
> Why don't some people have jobs?  Because like ANY other industry it's
> not just about a title/piece-of-paper/number/whatever.  It's about the
> person and their experiences that go along with the knowledge.
>
> Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>
> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>
> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>
> evil_at_ine.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>
> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>
> Knowledge is power.
>
> Power corrupts.
>
> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>
> darth router wrote:
>
>   It's one step closer to assembly line mass production. At that point,
simple
>   economics devalues it. The CCIE is valuable because of it's reputation
of
>   expertise, and because it is rare. If he former or latter go away, then
>   what?
>
>   Possibly no proctor? Lame. Less security as it's run by a third party
>   company? (we all know what this means) Lame. Cisco, the company? Mega
gay
>   lame. Oh well, we should all know that putting our eggs in the same
basket
>   isn't the smartest idea. Time to diversity!
>
>   On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Dark Fiber   <darkfiber08_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     You guys are all so funny! How does this devalue the cert? You are
>     still taking the same exam and need to know the same material. What is
>     the difference between this and the mobile lab? Sounds as if alot of
>     people are looking for any excuse not to study and take the easy why
>     out by saying the CCIE is worthless now I quit...
>
>     On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Anthony Faria     <tfaria72_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>       LMAO
>
>       On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:20 AM, John Pelletier <
> john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com      > wrote:
>
>         When I said Cisco is becoming more and more like MS some people
jumped
>
>     all
>
>         over that statement. I wish I could pick em like that at the
racetrack
> I
>         would
>         be a rich man.
>
>         --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Joseph L. Brunner
> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>         wrote:
>
>         From: Joseph L. Brunner         <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
> Subject: RE: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
>         To: "Ramanpreet Singh"         <sikandar.raman_at_gmail.com>        ,
> "CCIE Groupstudy"        <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>        Date: Tuesday,
> February 9, 2010, 1:34 AM
>
>         Excellent.
>
>         I'm going to China to get my Medical License, My Gulfstream V
Pilot's
>         License,
>         Certified Bank Examiner License, and oh, and my security CCIE.
>
>         "High-Stakes" Wasn't that a Steven Seagal Movie?
>
>         -Joe
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:         nobody_at_groupstudy.com         [
> mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com        ] On Behalf Of
>         Ramanpreet Singh
>         Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:14 PM
>         To: CCIE Groupstudy
>         Subject: CCIE R&S Lab Exam at Pearson ?
>
>         ---
>           February 8, 2010
>
>         New CCIE R&S Lab Exam Opportunities
>
>         To increase testing opportunities for certification candidates,
Cisco.
>
>     will
>
>         be offering the CCIE. Routing and Switching lab exam in additional
>         locations
>         in April 2010, as listed below. The exams will be administered at
>
>     Pearson
>
>         Professional Centers which are designed for secure, high-stakes
>         professional
>         exams and have been used by medical, legal and other examination
> boards
>
>     for
>
>         over eight years. Cisco already uses Pearson Professional Centers
to
>         administer the practical exam for CCDE. (Cisco Certified Design
> Expert).
>         More information on the centers is available at
> www.pearsonvue.com/cisco/ccie        <
> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE~wrBDP8S
> x7bRGmce~yL~Jvkq~5T~RIAymDr~&2=3765<
>
>
>
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE%7EwrBDP8S%0Ax7bRGmce%7EyL%7EJvkq%7E5
T%
> 7ERIAymDr%7E&2=3765
>
>         .
>
>         All CCIE R&S lab exams--whether taken on a Cisco campus, at
Pearson
>         Professional Centers, or at a temporary mobile lab location--are
>
>     presented
>
>         in the same format using the same equipment, have the same point
> values,
>         and
>         address the same exam topics. You will not need to adjust your
>
>     preparation
>
>         in any way.
>
>         If youve been thinking about scheduling your CCIE lab, this may be
a
>
>     great
>
>         opportunity to take the exam in a location convenient to you.
Contact
>         Pearson
>         VUE<
>
>
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE~wrBDP8Sx7bRGmce~yL~Jvkq~5T~RIAymD
>
>         r~&2=3766<
>
>
>
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE%7EwrBDP8Sx7bRGmce%7EyL%7EJvkq%7E5T%7
ER
> IAymD%0Ar%7E&2=3766
>
>           to
>
>         register. If you are already scheduled for a CCIE R&S lab exam in
>         another
>         location, you may contact Certification Online
>         Support<
> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE~wrBDP8Sx7bRGmce~yL~Jvkq~5T~RI
> AymDr~&2=3767<
>
>
>
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE%7EwrBDP8Sx7bRGmce%7EyL%7EJvkq%7E5T%7
ER
> I%0AAymDr%7E&2=3767
>
>           for
>
>         assistance in transferring your reservation. Plan to register
soon;
>         seats are limited. No other locations or dates are scheduled at
this
>
>     time.
>
>          *CCIE R&S Lab Exam Locations*
>
>         *Testing Date*
>
>         Bangalore, India
>
>         April 7, 2010
>
>         Beijing, PR China
>
>         April 10, 2010
>
>         Chicago, IL, USA
>
>         April 8, 2010
>
>         Dallas, TX, USA
>
>         April 8, 2010
>
>         (New) Delhi, India
>
>         April 7, 2010
>
>         Frankfurt, Germany
>
>         April 9, 2010
>
>         Guangzhou, PR China
>
>         April 9, 2010
>
>         Hyderabad, India
>
>         April 9, 2010
>
>         Istanbul, Turkey
>
>         April 8, 2010
>
>         London, UK
>
>         April 19, 2010
>
>         Montreal, Canada
>
>         April 7, 2010
>
>         Mumbai, India
>
>         April 9, 2010
>
>         Raleigh, NC, USA
>
>         April 8, 2010
>
>         San Jose, CA, USA
>
>         April 7, 2010
>
>         Sao Paolo, Brazil
>
>         April 8, 2010
>
>         Seoul, South Korea
>
>         April 13, 2010
>
>         Shanghai, PR China
>
>         April 9, 2010
>
>         Singapore
>
>         April 8, 2010
>
>         Sydney, Australia
>
>         April 13, 2010
>
>         Tokyo, Japan
>
>         April 13, 2010
>
>         [image: welcome to the human network]
>
>          Subscribe to
>         Cisco<
> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE~wrBDP8Sx7bRGmce~yL~Jvkq~5T~RIAy
> mDr~&2=3768<
>
>
>
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE%7EwrBDP8Sx7bRGmce%7EyL%7EJvkq%7E5T%7
ER
> IAy%0AmDr%7E&2=3768
>
>         Unsubscribe
>         from
>         Cisco<
> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE~wrBDP8Sx7bRGmce~yL~Jvkq~5T~RIAy
> mDr~&2=3769<
>
>
>
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE%7EwrBDP8Sx7bRGmce%7EyL%7EJvkq%7E5T%7
ER
> IAy%0AmDr%7E&2=3769
>
>         Privacy
>         Statement<
> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE~wrBDP8Sx7bRGmce~yL~Jvkq~5T~
> RIAymDr~&2=3770<
>
>
>
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE%7EwrBDP8Sx7bRGmce%7EyL%7EJvkq%7E5T%7
E%
> 0ARIAymDr%7E&2=3770
>
>         Subscribe
>         to receive emails and newsletters from Cisco.
>         Or modify your profile, subscriptions, and preferences if you're
> already
>
>     a
>
>         Cisco customer. To no longer receive these messages from Cisco.
Please
>         allow
>         7-10 business days for changes to take effect. Read more about our
>
>     privacy
>
>         statement.  Please do not reply to this email for support. To view
>
>     answers
>
>         to commonly asked questions regarding the Cisco Certification
Program
> or
>
>     to
>
>         request assistance related to this email, visit the Certification
> Online
>         Support tool at        www.cisco.com/go/certsupport        <
> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE~wrBDP8Sx
> 7bRGmce~yL~Jvkq~5T~RIAymDr~&2=3771<
>
>
>
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvUE%7EwrBDP8Sx%0A7bRGmce%7EyL%7EJvkq%7E5
T%
> 7ERIAymDr%7E&2=3771
>
>         .
>
>         Copyright (C) 2010, Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Cisco,
> the
>         Cisco logo, and Cisco Systems are registered trademarks of Cisco
>
>     Systems,
>
>         Inc. and/or its affiliates in the United States and certain other
>         countries.
>         Cisco Systems, Inc. 170 West Tasman Drive, San Jose, California
95134
>
>     ATTN:
>
>         Corporate Marketing (SJC08/3/4)
>
>         Blogs and organic groups at         http://www.ccie.net
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
>         Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
>
>         Blogs and organic groups at         http://www.ccie.net
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
>         Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
>
>         Blogs and organic groups at         http://www.ccie.net
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
>         Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
>
>       Blogs and organic groups at       http://www.ccie.net
>