Re: OT:Limiting number of Clients Per Access Point

From: karim jamali <karim.jamali_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:08:04 -0800

Hi Cristian,

Thank You for your help! I am very grateful.

Best Regards,

Karim

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Cristian Matei
<cristian.matei_at_datanets.ro>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes the clients will try and join another AP; for WLC the bellow
> configuration does not restrict number of associations on a per
> access-point; AFAIK only from the GUI you can do that, somewhere in the
> access-point configuration.
>
> Regards,
> Cristian.
>
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> karim jamali
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:45 AM
> To: cristian.matei_at_datanets.ro; ALL From_NJ; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: OT:Limiting number of Clients Per Access Point
>
> Dears,
>
> This is what I am looking for exactly.Did anyone test these commands in a
> real environment?One more thing let us say that the AP is saturated, one
> more client tries to join, it will get rejected due to the fact that the AP
> is saturated. Will the client automatically attempt to join another AP
> whose
> signal is lower due to the rejection message it got, or will it stick to
> re-attempting the join to the same AP.
>
> Guys I really do appreciate your help!
>
> For autonomous AP:
>
> AP# configure terminal
> AP(config)# dot11 ssid <ssid ID>
> AP(config-ssid)# accounting <AAA accounting method name>
> AP(config-ssid)# max-associations <max no>
> AP(config-ssid)# vlan <vlan ID>
> AP(config-ssid)# exit
> AP(config)# interface dot11radio 0
> AP(config-if)# ssid <ssid ID>
> end
> wr
>
> For WLC:
>
> config
> load-balancing status enable
> load-balancing window <max no>
> exit
> save config
>
>
> NOTE
> Load balancing is not recommened when having voice over wlan clients
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Cristian Matei
> <cristian.matei_at_datanets.ro>wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > If you only want to limit the number of clients per access point
> (no
> > matter who the clients are), in Autonomous, under the "dot11 ssid"
> command
> > you have a "max-associations" option to limit it; for the UWN (WLC
> based),
> > you have this option in the configuration of each access-point (depending
> > on
> > the WLC version the tab may differ).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Cristian.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > ALL
> > From_NJ
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:48 AM
> > To: karim jamali
> > Cc: Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: OT:Limiting number of Clients Per Access Point
> >
> > Not sure how well this would work but ...
> >
> > Use MAC authentication and have multiple SSIDs.
> >
> > Deploy your wireless network as you would also do, with ~ 20% overlap.
> > About 20% is standard for typical installs, however in this case you
> might
> > need to have much more overlap to ensure good coverage.
> >
> > APs interfere with each other!
> >
> > You will also want to make sure that each neighboring AP is on a
> different
> > channel. However ... do not use more the 3 or 4 channels across your
> > network ... I have heard that this will cause problems, additional
> latency,
> > etc ...
> >
> > When you do your site survey, keep moving the APs apart until you find
> the
> > right amount of quality.
> >
> > Designate some clients for each SSID and spread them out to the multiple
> > SSIDs on the multiple APs. This way you would only allow clients to
> > connect
> > to a particular SSID, you would have some overlap still.
> >
> > Clients always look to the best signal, and they would connect to the
> > appropriate AP.
> >
> > With this said, I personally do not like this option so well. It adds
> > complexity and in some cases, you might have poor coverage.
> >
> > Not doing voice are you? I would suggest to size the deployment right,
> > have right gear, etc ...
> >
> > Another thought might be to run some clients on wireless A or G; 5Ghz
> > versus
> > 2.4. You can also run some clients on N and N can run on both 5Ghz or
> 2.4.
> > This might help.
> >
> > If you have voice, you can also use a 7921 phone to test your network and
> > perform MOS scores and site surveys. Just a thought as you get closer /
> > deploy. All of this can be seen through the phone's gui.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Andrew Lissitz
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:25 AM, karim jamali <karim.jamali_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Gents,
> > >
> > > I want to know the possibility of limiting the number of users per AP.
> I
> > > need the solution for both the case of Controller Based AP or
> Autonomous
> > > AP.
> > > The only way I have found is through MAC authentication as in the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > Is there a way to limit the maximum number of client devices that can
> > > connect to a single Autonomous Access point?
> > >
> > > *A. *The default behavior of a Cisco client device is that it connects
> > to
> > > the AP that has best signal strength available. But you can limit the
> > > clients that can connect to any particular AP through MAC
> authentication.
> > > You need to provide the MAC address of the client to the AP so that the
> > AP
> > > can allow only those clients and restrict all the other clients that
> are
> > > not
> > > part of the allowed MAC address list from connecting to that particular
> > AP.
> > >
> > > Is there an option to do this limitation without configuring MAC
> > addresses
> > > authentication?
> > >
> > > Your help is much appreciated
> > >
> > > --
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