Re: OT: Multiple CCIE's

Brad thanks for your views. I totally agreed... I hope at least i can
refrain from such statements in future.
Thanks again Brad.....

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
<joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:

> "Radia Perlman and Jeff Doyle might laugh at a few CCIEs who consider
> themselves to be experts"
>
> I like the expression
>
> "There's Knowing it in a book and There's knowing it at the console"
>
> So whether I may consider myself an expert or not, at least I can perform
> at the console. The IE has done its job; whether you have 1 or 10
>
> -Joe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Brad Ellis
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:34 PM
> To: Nadeem Rafi
> Cc: Larry Hadrava; Felix Nkansah; Alexei Monastyrnyi; CCIE Groupstudy
> Subject: RE: OT: Multiple CCIE's
>
> It's easy to make fun of someone. But I think we should be supportive
> instead. Maybe that person is an expert with the group of people he
> works with or deals with on a daily basis. Radia Perlman and Jeff Doyle
> might laugh at a few CCIEs who consider themselves to be experts, but
> compared to their knowledge, more like infants. Having worked with Jeff
> when I was at INS, I can vouch for his level of expertise (besides his
> reputation of course). One thing I've learned, no matter how smart you
> think you are, or how good you are at something, there's almost always
> someone better and/or smarter! Levels of expertise and intelligence are
> relative to whom is being compared...remember that. Joe Schmoe who can
> setup a Linksys router to vontage might make you laugh, but if Joe
> Schmoe was 3 years old and doing it, well, then you might be impressed!
> :)
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Nadeem Rafi
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:40 AM
> To: Scott Morris
> Cc: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com; Larry Hadrava; Felix Nkansah; Alexei
> Monastyrnyi; Iwan Hoogendoorn; CCIE Groupstudy
> Subject: Re: OT: Multiple CCIE's
>
> Once i interviewed one expert he was IT expert, and his resume told he
> can
> send and receive emails and can work in Office 2000 :)
> Scot what you will comment on this case ?
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>
> > That's called confidence! I hooked up Vonage and therefore I can
> solve
> > anything! ;)
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >
> > JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >
> > JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >
> > evil_at_ine.com
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> >
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >
> > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >
> > Knowledge is power.
> >
> > Power corrupts.
> >
> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >
> > Joe Astorino wrote:
> >
> > I did once interview a candidate at a previous job that claimed to be
> an
> > expert on the basis of hooking up his own linksys wifi and vonage
> hehehehe
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S)
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010
> 08:18:31
> > To: Larry Hadrava <larryh12203_at_gmail.com> Cc: Felix Nkansah <
> > felixnkansah_at_gmail.com> ; Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
> ;
> > Iwan Hoogendoorn <iwan_at_ipexpert.com> ; Cisco certification <
> > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> Subject: Re: OT: Multiple CCIE's
> >
> > Yes, can you design a robust network with one AP and one 5-port
> switch.
> > ;)
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >
> > JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >
> > JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> > evil_at_ine.com
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >
> > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >
> > Knowledge is power.
> >
> > Power corrupts.
> >
> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >
> > Larry Hadrava wrote:
> >
> > CCIE SOHO. CCIE SOHO Operations, CCIE SOHO Design
> > Thanks
> > Larry Hadrava
> > CCIE #12203
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> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Years after the acquisition of Linksys.... I'm still waiting to
> > see
> > CCIE Home!
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIEx4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> > #4713,
> >
> > JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >
> > JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >
> > evil_at_ine.com
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >
> > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >
> > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >
> > Knowledge is power.
> >
> > Power corrupts.
> >
> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >
> > Felix Nkansah wrote:
> >
> > At the rate at which things are going, there could be 20 active
> > CCIE tracks
> > by then.
> >
> > By then, there would also be CCIE R&S Operations, CCIE Security
> > Operations,
> > CCIE Voice Operations, CCIE Storage Operations, CCIE Wireless
> > Operations.
> >
> > And let's not forget the anticipated tracks of CCIE Video, CCIE
> > Data Centre,
> > and who knows there could be CCIE LAN Switching, CCIE Enterprise
> > Networks,
> > CCIE Call Centres.
> >
> > Add to it the fact that all these new tracks would also have
> > their
> > corresponding "Operations" CCIE too.
> >
> > Felix
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Alexei Monastyrnyi <
> > alexeim73_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > By the time this kid is eligible to take tests, he has to make
> > sure
> > there are at least 7 ongoing CCIE tracks to be able to fulfill
> > his
> > dream. :-)
> >
> > When I was a little boy, I considered myself extremely unlucky
> > because
> > of having to attend music (piano) classes for 7 years; 4 days a
> > week 3
> > hours a day in addition to the secondary school (not to mention
> > home
> > works for both). From that time I remember a lot, including:
> > Prima, Secunda, Tertia, Quarta, Quinta, Sexta, Septima, Octava -
> > we
> > borrowed these and used in Russian without even changing a
> > prononciation. :-)
> >
> > Though growing from the German language family, English has a
> > huge
> > vocabulary luggage borrowed from immortal Greek and Latin. But
> > this
> > would be a way off OT subject here: :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > A.
> >
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