RE: New CCIE SP Operations

and all SPs are different too. You even hav ewhere companies outsource to SPs
and does that also include Application Service Providers? you could argue
large networks of the like from Google or Microsoft would be up there. And do
they seriously expect SPs to follow "their" prescribed way of doing things?
What about SPs that use Juniper hardware?

Travis

> From: Andre.Dufour_at_PAETEC.com
> To: niedentj_at_hotmail.com; narbikk_at_gmail.com; romangs_at_iementor.com
> CC: ccievoice1_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:39:45 -0500
> Subject: RE: New CCIE SP Operations
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> The focus seems to be on the SP environment from the perspective of working
for the/a SP.
>
> Let's see what happens. From what this article states,
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0579534.htm focus is
on service provider responsibilities (PE to PE and PE to CE). Also,
troubleshooting and maintaining were listed rather than implementation. This
track seems more "job-focused" that the CCIE SP that exists now (it seems that
both would be kept as I did not see a mention of the removal of the current
track). Also, this track seems to focus more on real-world setups and
knowledge of an existing SP core, etc. rather than theoretical ground-up
setups that invoke "strange" situations to test your knowledge, etc. like the
traditional labs have been.
>
> Andre
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Travis Niedens
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:24 PM
> To: narbikk_at_gmail.com; romangs_at_iementor.com
> Cc: ccievoice1_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: New CCIE SP Operations
>
> Every NOC is different - how can they expect to do this? There are
differences in escalation tools / methods, monitoring tools/methods,
technologies, procedures and so forth. A fortune 500 NOC will be much
different than that of a large university - heck, each may have different NOCs
for different groups.
> Most NOCs I have seen use the following tools:
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> Netcool
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> HPOV
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> MRTG
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> Custom SNMP applications
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> Various ticket tracking systems (siebel, RT, Gemini, DPU, etc.) - all with
different procedures, SLAs, escalations
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> Veritas
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> Tivoli Netview
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> etc.
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> Are they seriously going to do this and expect it to work?
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>
> Travis
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> > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:38:03 -0800
> > Subject: Re: New CCIE SP Operations
> > From: narbikk_at_gmail.com
> > To: romangs_at_iementor.com
> > CC: ccievoice1_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >
> > one more will not hurt
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Roman Rodichev
> <romangs_at_iementor.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Ok Im done
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> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Roman Rodichev
> > >
> > > 7xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider,
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> > > OP)
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> > > Y!M: roman7927
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> > >
> > > *From:* Narbik Kocharians [mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com]
> > > *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2010 9:27 PM
> > > *To:* Roman Rodichev
> > > *Cc:* ccievoice1; Cisco certification
> > > *Subject:* Re: New CCIE SP Operations
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't be lazy, come on.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Roman Rodichev
> > > <romangs_at_iementor.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Give me a freaking break, Cisco. Literally.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Roman Rodichev
> > > 6xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider,
> > > Wireless) Instructor, Content Developer ieMentor Corporation
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> > > Y!M: roman7927
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > Of
> > > ccievoice1
> > > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:53 AM
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> > > Subject: OT: New CCIE SP Operations
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> > > Well,
> > >
> > > Cisco is afraid anyone of you is free and being bored!! Here comes
> > > the
> new
> > > CCIE certification
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> > >
> > >
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