Here is what the student posted on our forum:
Hello All!
Here to say i cleared my v4 RS lab 16/12 !!
Very Very Glad about it...
Can you hear the fireworks from there?
Not on the first attempt but, got it! Finally!
I did v3 and a v4 exams. I feel the need to write a post with some info
that i would really like to read about when I was close to my exam date. There
were few things known about it.
My intention is ONLY TO HELP, and this is MY POINT OF VIEW, I am not a
genius, dont want to rule the world.
Well Hope it helps someone on the path :-)
First off all, i didnt think about a CCIE to raise salary or get an
upgrade to my career. Of course that would be nice but it was mainly a
personal challenge.
I work as Cisco training coordinator on Brazil also as a CCSI/CCAI
instructor for the networking academy and learning partner programs (rs,sp and
sec tracks) and one of the best feelings I have now is to know my students are
learning from a CCIE. Some selected consulting always come and go when there
is some time, of course, when there is time...
My normal workday begins at 6:00am and end closing some class door at
22:00pm. btw i also have a girlfriend and we like to travel a lot on holidays
and weekends.
So how the hack you could study for your lab? I tried everything to study
on every periods of the day with real or emulated hardware, but the only way
it worked for me was to arrive early at the office (around 7) people start to
arrive at 9, work warms up at 10 etc did the best i could do in that gap of
silence.
I have a home lab that is always available but found more objective to rent
the equipment on the morning, like "you paid for it so you have to study"
thing could keep me away from sleeping a bit more on the mornings. Its also
better for me to study in the morning with fresh brains than tired at night.
The interface to load configs, specific portions of the technologies also
helped a lot.
My home lab was grate at start, it was build slowly from the past ccnp
days, use it a lot today when i am teaching. For the CCIE it was more useful
at the end to lab out something quickly on the middle of the day and clear
some questions I had for myself while studying That is interesting, if you
question your self about a technology, lab it up immediately to get/see it
right, if time goes by you can forget about that without clearing it out.
I also was a little lazy to schedule the lab exam, decided to do so some
time after the announcement of the v4 going live. On the big rush for seats I
got my spot at June (yet v3).
Did my best to study on the time I had, arranged with my boss 2 extra
weeks to focus more And arrived at my first attempt on the v3..
HAHAHA Looking back, I can say I was a perfect tourist, spent like half
an hour of the exam time looking around, nice chair, this keyboard is a bit
different from mines, what can I do about that, maybe some paper to rise it up
a bit, what is going on with this desktop, a lot of pencils, not so much paper
etc. Some time then i stared reading the lab book and my thinking at that
moment was read it all, take notes etc somewhere on the middle of the book
some interior voice warned me DUDE ITS BIG!! And it was really more than I
was thinking of. So I killed my time management plan, started to rush, even
lost my plans to mark down the points to each question and you can imagine how
was my mind on the end of the day .
I am one of those that can have fun on my own. It was a lot of fun, but I
failed. On the open ended questions to begin with.
V3 everyone knows about, lets talk about V4.
My opinion is that V4 is easier than V3, much more things to do, you need to
be faster but the topics are not as deep in technology as in V3. It really
looks like more a consulting thing than a doing the impossible thing.
V3 was full of do this, but without that, not using this, by the way apply
commands only on equipment X, without acls and less lines possible that is
what I say about the doing the impossible what you would not do on the real
world
V4 OEQ, TSHOOT, LAB
OEQ : are still there, no running no hiding and now on all tracks. You dont
need to say much, tell any kind of story, show extra knowledge. Be VERY
precise, answer exactly what is being asked. I can almost guarantee that if
you write 6+ lines of text you will not get the points, in this case you can
think you are on the wrong way to answer it, review the question it must have
a short answer. Talking about short, if it asks you how many and the answer is
one just say ONE period. Most of them ccnp level of deepness on ccie topics,
the oeq I got on V3 were much uglier maybe cos now we have tshooting
TSHOOT : That is new, nice and BIG. If you thinking its big, it will be bigger
than you think, if you think it is HUGE it will be more than that. Look at
your monitor and imagine something 5 times the size anything can fit inside
close to that. You have 2 hours, if you get it done in less time, more time
for the lab part. Fix the stuff and save the configs, when time is out it will
close, if you forget to save you are lost! There will be a timer on the screen
for you to keep eye on it. Its easy to forget about the clock (I forgot about
it). All stuff is on the screen, you have a topology that is very rich in
information (in lack of a better word for that). You can access the questions
from the menu on top. I think 13 or so is the max questions you can get. Get
used to study with everything on the screen, crt has no tabs, questions open
on separate screens, there are instructions if you want to read. My advice
RUSH! Dont waste a minute. If you get a question about a routing protocol
that is not working start thinking what can be bad to make it happen while you
are trying to find the related devices on the diagram. Check Check Check, if
you cant find it, dont waste more than 10 minutes, go for the next one. The
questions have points related to them. There were no ugly things broken,
normal stuff, things you can find on a work day. I think the tshooting part
will be the most critical step on your exam. You need to get a minimum of
questions done for this part, as an example if you get 12 questions you need
9 done something close to that.
LAB : So you have 30 minutes of OEQ, 2 hours of Tshooting 5:30 hours left for
the lab. Sounds it must be shorter right? Thats correct, some of the time
consuming work is already done for you. Everything is on screen; you click on
the device to open crt. Instructions, diagrams, etc are on the menu. There is
a terminal server for those that like that style of working. Points are there
for each question, the points may appear with some points to one part, other
points to the next part whiting the same technology topic. The good news is
that they are all straight forward things to do, as if you were on a
consulting, you get those things to do for that day, and someone will do other
stuff tomorrow, so go and do it. Make it clean and simple; dont waste time to
show you know a lot more than what is asked
There is a funny thing about the lab, it has a END button, you can press it
when you end (please only when you end END button). It closes everything and
show some text : Thanks for visiting CCIE LAB something like that it says
VISITING, Cisco should change it to something better to read after a whole day
of brain consuming stuff... Like good luck, best wishes or go sleep a bit J
Plan Plan Plan your lab day, it is very hard to stick to the plan on the
real one.
Do a lot of labs, focus on tshooting commands on everything you read and
forget you have a TV!
People are asking me what study materials I used, gona write them on the
next post, this one is getting big.
BEST LUCK FOR EVERYONE READING!
GO FOR IT!
If I could do it, you can do it too!
Special thanks go to :
My Girlfriend : All the support! Love You!
Scott Morris : Man I dont know you in person, but I hear your voice A LOT
(since ipx). There are topics I have your wordings memorized! When I think
about those technologies I can hear you speaking in my head. Awesome! Have to
shake your hand some day to thank you. Maybe on a boot camp for my next track!
My Big Thanks!
Brian McGahan : Your videos and the deep you cover the topics are amazing! You
are the second voice that appears on my head! Thanks Thanks!
All the INE Instructors : Gona send a video of myself clapping hands for all
the good work and support J
Flavio Provedel
On Jan 18, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Scott Morris wrote:
> Perhaps passing on a regrade? I would assume that they'd set your pass
> date as when you took the lab, but could only offer the next sequential
> number that was available?
>
> Scott
>
> Marc La Porte wrote:
>
> Actually, Flavio Provedel is NOT the first who passed the RSv4 exam.
> Although for some reason a higher number, the date says it all... And I am
> sure there are more (I just haven't found them yet ;-))
>
> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track Certification
> Status Certification
> Date BRANIMIR TURK CCIE 25823 Routing and Switching Certified 28-Oct-2009
> Also, Brian Luers (CCIE #25809) passed the R&S...
>
> Marc
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 05:30, Matt Martin <m.mattymat_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> After DB publically jumped on his ass, I don't blame the guy for not
saying
> anything further.
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:58 PM, <consigliere_26_at_yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> As I read recently, Flavio Prevedel, the only known CCIE since v4.0
was
> addopted, was supposed to send his feedback regarding his story and
his
> comments, and to explain from what point of view "v4 is not that
> big of a deal"...
>
> Any news?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [
mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com ] On Behalf Of
> Anthony
> Sequeira
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: Scott Morris
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: First R&S v4 PASSING SCORE!!!
>
> Looks like my December prediction was spot on! I had two just miss in
the
> Configuration section this week, they will be crushing it next month
in
> their
> second attempts.
>
> Here was what Flavio wanted us to communicate (not a GSer).
>
> "Dear Friends,
> Very glad and proud to say that i passed my ccie r&s 4.0 on sao paulo
> yesterday! CCIE 25793
>
> Would like to thanks ine and all the staff for the great help and
support
> on
> this journey.
>
> Please update my name when writing it in the hall of fame on the left
>
> side
>
> of
> the site (Flavio Provedel)
>
> Will write at the online community, and send you an email with my
story
>
> and
>
> comments so you can publish on the site... People need to know v4 is
not
> that
> big of a deal, and INE really helps a lot!
>
> But next week cos i am flying to mexico to celebrate!!!"
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626 http://www.INE.com
>
> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>
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