Re: Narbik's Service Provider & Security bootcamp - The wait is

WOW, did you really have to do that openly on the forum?

Did we NOT agree to stop all this crap? Now I see who is against talking
about the good, bad and ugly side of the vendors? Its the vendors and NOT
the students.

Not long ago, some guys were unhappy with the deal they had with this
particular vendor, and they talked about it here in GS. Everyone jumped on
these poor guys for no reason. HE/SHE has the right to state the truth. Do
you think that this vendor's support team would have mentioned their
shortcomings while they were taking his money?

Where should this guy go? Who should he complain to?

I believe this is the right forum for that. As a matter of fact, its the
BEST place for that. If I do the right thing with my students, I should NOT
have any problems with these kinds of posts.

As I promised in my interview, I will NOT participate in useless
discussions; therefore, I will ignore all the flames and arguments. But to
clarify certain things:

 I never outlined the new classes and products that we offer. check the
e-mail.

As far as legitimate resources, Ron, Kaushalccie Patel, nrafia, itechguru
and Nadeem are REAL. They can be contacted
directly and you will see that they posted their opinion on their own. I
did not ask them to do so, nor did I pay them.

Have you seen some of the signatures lately? What do you call that?

I encourage my students and others to state their true experience about the
boot camp they attend and products they purchase. These days there are
product reviews so customers can make a decision based on those experiences.
Why not use it for our business? Why is it that if there is a positive
review, people assume that I have paid these guys? As you can see, Nadeem
is very happy with the quality of INE classes and products. Why shouldnt
he mention that? That is very good news that everyone needs to hear.

Which support team will state the negative aspects of their boot camps or
products?

BTW, we do have a support forum.

As far as big corp. Hey ENRON was NOT a 2-man shop.

Its the quality and NOT the number of people that you have in the
organization.

You forgot to mention my grannnnnnma, this makes it three. I think that my
students will tell you that they get unbelievable amount of support from
this 2-man shop than else where.

BTW, I was NOT arguing with you or anyone else for that matter.

I believe, Marko, Joe, Brians, Anthony, Scott, Bartik, Tarun, etc.etc..are
all GR8 instructors and from their posts we all know that they are
knowledgeable as well.

Trust me i respect firms like IPexpert, INE and others, and i hope to god
that you will all be in business for a long long time,
hey.........competition can ONLY make you a better person.

Lets put an end to all of this crap.

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:

> I couldn't agree more Jeff. We can provide you with vast amounts of
> knowledge, understanding, and help but we can't force people to do the
> hardcore labbing necessary to pass the CCIE lab exam.
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Jeff Fry <jeff_at_fryguy.net> wrote:
> > The only person responsible for you passing is you.
> >
> > Training companies help give you the knowledge and resources but
> ultimately
> > it is up to you.
> >
> > I have used two of the vendors here when they where together, so I speak
> > from experience. I did not pass after my class and that was my fault.
> Once I
> > had my butt handed to me per Se,I had the motivation to study.
> >
> > Choose ccbootcamp, ipx, ine, Narbik, or anyone else but at the end of the
> > test it is all you.
> >
> >
> > Touched from my iPod
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> > On Jan 17, 2010, at 21:19, Tom Solski <tom.solski_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> I find this fight customer pathetic. If you guys do not increase your
> >> student's passing rate from nearly 0% to at least 60% you will be ALL
> >> out of business very soon.
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