Re: So What's Happening with Narbik Kocharians?

Hey Keegan,

No need to apologize at least to me...I never took any offense to this post
at all. Happy New Year!

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:27 AM, <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com> wrote:

>
> I supposed this was directed at me so I might as well reply. First I'd
> like to apologize to Joe, Rick, Scott and Narbik and any of the other
> trainers I might have offended with my first set of comments. They are an
> invaluable resource to all of us wannabe's. Secondly, this is no warzone
> although I am a joker. I was simply stating an opinion. I also never said
> that the OT stuff was unimportant I think everyone comes here for different
> reasons especially people that already have their CCIE. I merely suggested
> a course of action in requesting that Paul (if he still runs this place)
> create a group with a more social focus. I'd probably subscribe to it. I
> was stating an opinion. If anyone has any further responses please reply
> offlist. That should put an end to the "war".
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keegan
>
>
> From:
> Nickelby Thane <nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com>
> To:
> Nickelby Thane <nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com>
> Cc: Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>, Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com, Marko
> Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com, Joe Astorino <
> jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>, Cisco certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Date: 12/29/2009 05:16 PM
> Subject: Re: So What's Happening with Narbik Kocharians?
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Thanks guys who answered my question. It really helps me to know what it's
> in store for me by vendors and I have said it a few times that I do not
> intend to step on anyone's tail here.
>
> For those of you who wanted just technical questions saying this is a waste
> of time, I would just like to say I am sorry if you feel that way. There is
> always the option of IGNORING such mails rather than replying to it and
> making it a war list (and by replying, you wasted 5 minutes of your studies
> time). One basic fundamental skill that I learn so much from my studies and
> my work life is 'get to the root of the problem' and the root of the problem
> lies within those replies.
>
> The question started as an innocent question but we had to have a few
> jokers making a war zone out of this and no I am not referring it to Narbik,
> Marko, Joe and the other vendors. They simply just answered what I ask so
> thanks guys. That question was meant as just to share with anyone who is
> interested in knowing what the vendors are up to for 2010. I did not
> advocate advertising but merely asking what's in that santa bag of theirs.
> They complied and people started calling it advertising.
>
> So tell me, should I ask them in binary? If I have broken GS rules on
> posting such a mail, then let me know albeit in a nice way not a "FY" kind
> of way. None of us were as 'good' as we think we are today without going
> through a hard curve in the beginning.
>
> Peace.
>
>
> --
> Warmest regards,
> Nickelby Thane
> Personal Blog : *http://nthane.blogspot.com* <http://nthane.blogspot.com/>
> CCIE Blog : *http://cciecisco.blogspot.com*<http://cciecisco.blogspot.com/>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Joe Astorino <*jastorino_at_ipexpert.com*<jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>>
> wrote:
> I don't know if this was directed at the flame war in general or what, but
> all I did was answer Nickelby's question about what us vendors were doing in
> 2010.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Rick Mur <*rmur_at_ipexpert.com*<rmur_at_ipexpert.com>>
> wrote:
> I'm so sorry, but I don't agree with you. We at IPexpert have a big focus
> on contributing to technical questions on mailing lists, though the amount
> of technical queries on GroupStudy decreased, but you can't say we do not
> contribute to this list and help students in any way we can.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Rick Mur
> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> URL: *http://www.IPexpert.com* <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>
> On 29 dec 2009, at 17:08, <*Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com*<Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com>>
> <*Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com* <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com>> wrote:
>
> > Slight flaming....
> >
> > You guys should create a list for this stuff. I guess it would be
> > impolite to say most of us don't care so I won't say that. I just want
> to
> > study for the lab. Many of you guys are multiple CCIE's more interested
> > in selling, promoting or supporting your products than actually
> > contributing to the list. Someone dig up Paul and ask him to create a
> > CCIE lobby or something. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who feels this
> > way, but 20 emails of training vendor gossip is a bit irritating.
> >
> > Keegan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:
> > Nickelby Thane <*nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com* <nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com>>
> > To:
> > Marko Milivojevic <*markom_at_ipexpert.com* <markom_at_ipexpert.com>>
> > Cc:
> > Cisco certification <*ccielab_at_groupstudy.com* <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>>
> > Date:
> > 12/29/2009 01:32 AM
> > Subject:
> > Re: So What's Happening with Narbik Kocharians?
> > Sent by:
> > <*nobody_at_groupstudy.com* <nobody_at_groupstudy.com>>
> >
> >
> >
> > Personally, I would love to know what every vendor is working on. It
> sorts
> > of give you the kind of feeling that it's Christmas again (like waiting
> to
> > know what's in the big box of presents). I am still waiting for updates
> to
> > the 4.0 of IPExpert's BLS (I owned the 3.0 version btw) and I am eagerly
> > waiting for INE's updates as well.
> >
> > Some of my blog readers have been asking me on FB, mail on whether I know
> > anything. Since I do know a little tiny weeny bit, I thought it would be
> > nice if GS people were to know as well.
> >
> > Hope I didn't step on anyone's tail ... I may weight 99kg but I am
> > dreaming
> > I am light enough :-).
> >
> > --
> >
> > Warmest regards,
> > Nickelby Thane
> > Personal Blog : *http://nthane.blogspot.com*<http://nthane.blogspot.com/>
> > CCIE Blog : *http://cciecisco.blogspot.com*<http://cciecisco.blogspot.com/>
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Marko Milivojevic
> > <*markom_at_ipexpert.com* <markom_at_ipexpert.com>>wrote:
> >
> >> No flaming, but ...
> >>
> >> Does this mean it's fair game for the rest of us to post in detail on
> >> this list what we are working on?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >>
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> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:16, Nickelby Thane <*
> nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com* <nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Just thought I shared and please no flaming.
> >>>
> >>> Narbik Kocharians have been pretty quiet nowadays. Just a few posts
> > here
> >> and
> >>> there on GroupStudy and *poof* he disappears using his CCIE jutsu
> > skills.
> >>> However, I was lucky enough to catch him at the right moment today and
> >>> brought him back to my lair for questioning. Here is what I have found
> > so
> >>> far before he managed to 'escape' me again.
> >>>
> >>> Narbik locked himself for the past week or so and he has just finished
> >> his
> >>> 4th troubleshooting lab and the boot camp 2.0 work book for the CCIE
> > R&S
> >>> track.
> >>>
> >>> He is almost done with the CCIE SP workbook.
> >>>
> >>> He is also almost done with the CCIE Security workbook.
> >>>
> >>> He will finish the OSPF route filtering in the next two days (by this
> > I
> >>> assume it's the VoD).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Looks like 2010 is bringing in good stuff to all of us already :-). I
> > am
> >>> sincerely waiting for the other vendors to share some juicy details
> > for
> >>> 2010!
> >>>
> >>> To our CCIE studies!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Warmest regards,
> >>> Nickelby Thane
> >>> Personal Blog : *http://nthane.blogspot.com*<http://nthane.blogspot.com/>
> >>> CCIE Blog : *http://cciecisco.blogspot.com*<http://cciecisco.blogspot.com/>
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