That's exactly what I mean, I'm leaning more towards blogs/forums(errr...
sometimes), RSS feeds. Things like that. This list used to be a great sea of
knowledge and help; now it's just a great big ****** (<- insert bad word)
sea of arguments and disagreements. We all disagree at points, and
experiences may tend to give us the impression that we're right or wrong. I
just take every answer from everyone and apply what suits me best. Sometimes
things get a bit too personal, it is a CCIE certification forum, not a Dr.
Phil episode :)
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yandy
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
> Yandy,
>
> I'm sorry you feel that way. I remember a time on this list when
> training vendors were not advertising, but rather helped answer
> questions. These days if one answers technical question on the list,
> the only thing that happens is one other vendor jumping at their
> throat saying to stay away from his student...
>
> Again, I'm sorry for not helping this list be better, but in the
> circumstances described above, there is little incentive. On the other
> hands, vendors that have their own study forums (two reputable ones
> have) do not have that problem on those lists. Shame we don't have
> "neutral ground" any longer.
>
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>
> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:11, Yandy Ramirez <yandyr_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > God this group has turned into a kids elementary cafeteria, blah blah
> > blah... Can we get back to certification/technology topics. I get it,
> you're
> > all vendors, may not like each other... put it somewhere else. I may have
> to
> > unsubscribe cause I'm having a hard time finding anything useful in this
> > list anymore. These topics just stand out too much.
> >
> >
> > ------
> > yandy
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> hahahahahahaha
> >>
> >> Ask that man, the owner of GS, what the problem was and why he let me in
> >> again. Maybe you will be diappointed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Marko Milivojevic
> >> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > I only asked whether it was fair game for us to post - can't you read
> >> > plain English? That question was aimed at the only person who can
> >> > allow or disallow that on GS - the owner of the list. Remember, that
> >> > guy who banned you from the list for spamming few years back?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >> >
> >> > Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >> > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >> > Live Assistance, Please visit: http://www.ipexpert.com/chat
> >> > eFax: +1.810.454.0130
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:52, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Hahahahaha
> >> > >
> >> > > Nickelby you got me. I did not know that you were going to post. But
> >> > > hey
> >> > its
> >> > > cool, i will tell you guys/ladies what i have for 2010.
> >> > > Boot Camp 2.0 work book almost done
> >> > > SP work book 95 percent done
> >> > > Security Work book almost done
> >> > > TS labs are being done, 4 are finished and they can be purchased
> >> > > individually.
> >> > >
> >> > > I may even have a surprise pricing.....
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Marko,
> >> > >
> >> > > Did you read Nickelby's e-mail before you went into a cardiac
> arrest?
> >> > > Hey
> >> > > man...... what he wrote was NOT a test question or a tricky one, it
> >> > > was
> >> > in
> >> > > pure and simple English and if you read the last line, this is what
> he
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > "I am sincerely waiting for the other vendors to share some juicy
> >> > > details
> >> > > for 2010!"
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, relax, take a deep breath and write what you are working on.
> >> > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Anthony Sequeira <
> asequeira_at_ine.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> For that fun Christmas feeling from INE, subscribe to our blog
> using
> >> > RSS.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We cannot post our many updates here for obvious reasons.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Dec 29, 2009, at 1:30 AM, Nickelby Thane wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Personally, I would love to know what every vendor is working on.
> >> > >> > It
> >> > >> > sorts
> >> > >> > of give you the kind of feeling that it's Christmas again (like
> >> > waiting
> >> > >> > to
> >> > >> > know what's in the big box of presents). I am still waiting for
> >> > updates
> >> > >> > to
> >> > >> > the 4.0 of IPExpert's BLS (I owned the 3.0 version btw) and I am
> >> > eagerly
> >> > >> > waiting for INE's updates as well.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Some of my blog readers have been asking me on FB, mail on
> whether
> >> > >> > I
> >> > >> > know
> >> > >> > anything. Since I do know a little tiny weeny bit, I thought it
> >> > >> > would
> >> > be
> >> > >> > nice if GS people were to know as well.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Hope I didn't step on anyone's tail ... I may weight 99kg but I
> am
> >> > >> > dreaming
> >> > >> > I am light enough :-).
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Warmest regards,
> >> > >> > Nickelby Thane
> >> > >> > Personal Blog : http://nthane.blogspot.com
> >> > >> > CCIE Blog : http://cciecisco.blogspot.com
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Marko Milivojevic
> >> > >> > <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> No flaming, but ...
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Does this mean it's fair game for the rest of us to post in
> detail
> >> > >> >> on
> >> > >> >> this list what we are working on?
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> --
> >> > >> >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >> > >> >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> >> > >> >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> >> > >> >> Live Assistance, Please visit: http://www.ipexpert.com/chat
> >> > >> >> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 06:16, Nickelby Thane
> >> > >> >> <nickelby.thane_at_gmail.com>
> >> > >> >> wrote:
> >> > >> >>> Just thought I shared and please no flaming.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> Narbik Kocharians have been pretty quiet nowadays. Just a few
> >> > >> >>> posts
> >> > >> >>> here
> >> > >> >> and
> >> > >> >>> there on GroupStudy and *poof* he disappears using his CCIE
> jutsu
> >> > >> >>> skills.
> >> > >> >>> However, I was lucky enough to catch him at the right moment
> >> > >> >>> today
> >> > and
> >> > >> >>> brought him back to my lair for questioning. Here is what I
> have
> >> > found
> >> > >> >>> so
> >> > >> >>> far before he managed to 'escape' me again.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> Narbik locked himself for the past week or so and he has just
> >> > finished
> >> > >> >> his
> >> > >> >>> 4th troubleshooting lab and the boot camp 2.0 work book for the
> >> > >> >>> CCIE
> >> > >> >>> R&S
> >> > >> >>> track.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> He is almost done with the CCIE SP workbook.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> He is also almost done with the CCIE Security workbook.
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> He will finish the OSPF route filtering in the next two days
> (by
> >> > this
> >> > >> >>> I
> >> > >> >>> assume it's the VoD).
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> Looks like 2010 is bringing in good stuff to all of us already
> >> > >> >>> :-).
> >> > I
> >> > >> >>> am
> >> > >> >>> sincerely waiting for the other vendors to share some juicy
> >> > >> >>> details
> >> > >> >>> for
> >> > >> >>> 2010!
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> To our CCIE studies!
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> --
> >> > >> >>> Warmest regards,
> >> > >> >>> Nickelby Thane
> >> > >> >>> Personal Blog : http://nthane.blogspot.com
> >> > >> >>> CCIE Blog : http://cciecisco.blogspot.com
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>
> >> > >> >>>
> >> >
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> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Narbik Kocharians
> >> > > CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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> >> > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Narbik Kocharians
> >> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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> >> Training And Remote Racks available
> >>
> >>
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