Re: CCIE Data Center?

Sorry, this is not CCDE. It is vendor neutral and very abstract in
regards to hardware. If they tell you in a scenario that a firewall
may terminate IPSec/GRE tunnels or look under MPLS labels, than you
should adapt your thinking accordingly. ASA can not do that. CCDE
firewals do. Oh, and there are no budgets or religious wars.

I've been there.

On Wednesday, December 9, 2009, Tony Varriale
<tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
> Although there are plenty of CCIEs that do presales...notice I said CCDE.
>
> tv
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Florian Frotzler
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:06 AM
> To: Tony Varriale
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE Data Center?
>
> I hope I don't offend anyone here, but I just imagined a pre-sales guy
> taking the CCIE, seems unlikely, at least in my working environment.
>
> Cheers,
> Florian
>
> 2009/12/9 Tony Varriale <tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>:
>> ?
>>
>> tv
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Florian Frotzler [mailto:florian_at_frotzler.priv.at]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:09 AM
>> To: Tony Varriale
>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: CCIE Data Center?
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> 2009/12/9 Tony Varriale <tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>:
>>> Well, from what I've read (I haven't taken the test) that is the CCDE.
>>>
>>> tv
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Mark
>>> Matters
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 AM
>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: CCIE Data Center?
>>>
>>> How about a CCIE Pre-Sales. j/k
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Tony Varriale
>>> <tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would disagree...it won't be religion based.
>>>>
>>>> The original Design cert was a failure for a number of reasons. As for
>>> the
>>>> CCDE, I can't if it's successful or not as I have not seen it yet.
> Based
>>>> on
>>>> the existing data, I would say it's going to have a long uphill battle.
>>>> And
>>>> I don't see the top of the mountain yet.
>>>>
>>>> But as for DC, it will be more than fine. All of the CCIE certs are
> post
>>>> sales based and I assume DC will be too. Making them post sales is the
>>>> easy
>>>> part. Every area/technology has more than one way to skin the cat.
>>>>
>>>> It's presales that is the difficult part.
>>>>
>>>> tv
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Travis Niedens
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:47 PM
>>>> To: iwan_at_ipexpert.com; marc.a.laporte_at_gmail.com
>>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>> Subject: RE: CCIE Data Center?
>>>>
>>>> Two words:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> About Time !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I fear however that this can become somewhat of a "religious" cert like
>>> the
>>>> "design" cert was. There are many ways to skin a cat in the DC
>>> environment
>>>> and as most DC engineers / architects can attest to, there are always
>>>> battles
>>>> that are waged to get to a final design / implementation plan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>>
>>>>
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