Re: CCIE Data Center?

I hope I don't offend anyone here, but I just imagined a pre-sales guy
taking the CCIE, seems unlikely, at least in my working environment.

Cheers,
Florian

2009/12/9 Tony Varriale <tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>:
> ?
>
> tv
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florian Frotzler [mailto:florian_at_frotzler.priv.at]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: Tony Varriale
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE Data Center?
>
> LOL
>
> 2009/12/9 Tony Varriale <tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>:
>> Well, from what I've read (I haven't taken the test) that is the CCDE.
>>
>> tv
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Mark
>> Matters
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 AM
>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: CCIE Data Center?
>>
>> How about a CCIE Pre-Sales. j/k
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Tony Varriale
>> <tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I would disagree...it won't be religion based.
>>>
>>> The original Design cert was a failure for a number of reasons. As for
>> the
>>> CCDE, I can't if it's successful or not as I have not seen it yet. Based
>>> on
>>> the existing data, I would say it's going to have a long uphill battle.
>>> And
>>> I don't see the top of the mountain yet.
>>>
>>> But as for DC, it will be more than fine. All of the CCIE certs are post
>>> sales based and I assume DC will be too. Making them post sales is the
>>> easy
>>> part. Every area/technology has more than one way to skin the cat.
>>>
>>> It's presales that is the difficult part.
>>>
>>> tv
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Travis Niedens
>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:47 PM
>>> To: iwan_at_ipexpert.com; marc.a.laporte_at_gmail.com
>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: CCIE Data Center?
>>>
>>> Two words:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> About Time !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I fear however that this can become somewhat of a "religious" cert like
>> the
>>> "design" cert was. There are many ways to skin a cat in the DC
>> environment
>>> and as most DC engineers / architects can attest to, there are always
>>> battles
>>> that are waged to get to a final design / implementation plan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
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