Re: CCIE SP Changes

The point being that the cost of everything has changed over the years.
While the lab cost may seem obscenely expensive it's in "today's
dollars" as the economists like to say. The labs of previous years
weren't necessarily "cheaper" when viewed in that fashion.

At least unless you're still lamenting when candy bars were 10 cents and
a gallon of gas was under a dollar. ;)

Scott

Tony Varriale wrote:
> What does my income today have to do with the cost of a lab?
>
> My point was 5-10 years ago, it was $10k+ for r/s. Today, it's <$5k.
>
> Either way, $10k-15k isn't cheap either way you slice it.
>
> BTW, I've bought multiple $15k labs. Not on today's income.
>
> My lab today was cheap (<$3k).
>
> tv
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Morris
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:18 PM
> To: Tony Varriale
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE SP Changes
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> That's not particularly a good example. Remember how much money you
> made 5 years ago? How about 10? I do.
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> Tony Varriale wrote:
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>> If there is a business model, they will be there.
>>
>> The lab isn't for people to be able to afford. It isn't their right.
>>
>> Remember what labs cost just 5 years ago? How about 10? I do.
>>
>> tv
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Florian Frotzler
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:15 PM
>> To: Ahmed Elhoussiny
>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: CCIE SP Changes
>>
>> Let's please not forget that it is the business model of companies
>> like INE, IPE and all the others to help us all getting our numbers.
>> So irrespectively of the HW in the blueprint, these companies will
>> always try to offer remote labs with appropriate HW for reasonable
>> pricing, because they will not want to lose their customers. Of course
>> with a CRS you might need to forget the idea of a homelab, but what is
>> really the difference between spending some $ in remote labs or real
>> HW?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florian
>>
>> 2009/12/7 Ahmed Elhoussiny <aelhoussiny_at_gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>> Hello Experts,
>>>
>>> how can i be a CCIE SP, and no nothing about CRS-1 & GSR, IOS XR !!!!
>>> yes you can gain the certificate, but you have to know this OS & HW
>>> architecture if you need to work in an ISP having a new cisco backbone,
>>> CRS-1, GSR & ASR are the basic equipments for any new Cisco Backb bone
>>> design offer.
>>>
>>> The CCIE SP must have some changes, introducing GSR & CRS-1...10K with
>>>
> IOS
>
>>> XR
>>>
>>> but the draw back will be , how engineers will do the labs for
>>>
> preperation
>
>>> !!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks & B.regards
>>> Ahmed Elhoussiny,2x CCIE# 21988 (R&S-SP)
>>> Network Consultant & Cisco Academy Instructor
>>>
>>>
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