Re: OT:Cisco becoming Microsoft ?

And John say anything you want to Cisco... But I just can't understand why
most of you guys keep coming and back and bashing guys who took exams before
v4. Do keep in mind, most of us had zero vendor training or workbooks or a
virtual lab to work with... We had our own difficulties on funding our
studies building a freaking lab in our basement and trying out topologies
out of Cisco's documentation. I do understand the v4 is been tough on most
guys, but that doesn't give any of you guys the rights to talk trash about
guys who took it earlier. Every version presented its own challenge and had
less people passing the initial days...

-Hoogen

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Wouter Prins <wp_at_null0.nl> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> As with almost everything, it's all about the money eventually. :)
>
> 2009/12/5 John Pelletier <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>
>
> > All, I know this is off topic hence the OT in the subject line. A couple
> > of
> > observations to consider, agree/disagree/disregard as you wish.
> >
> > Seems to me with the explosion of certifications coming out of Cisco it
> is
> > becoming the new Microsoft of the networking world only really concerned
> > with
> > how much money it can generate from issuing and requiring the maintenacne
> > of a
> > laundry list of certifications. Many of which now clearly overalp ie
> > CCNP/CCSP
> > with extensive IPSec VPN, CCIE R&S and SP with MPLS, and Security with
> VPN
> > and
> > MPLS VPN etc. Would they be better off with one cert to cover the 3 for
> > instance? And yes I know each goes much deeper into other areas as well.
> >
> > Also, IF cisco was soooo concerned with the RS V4 being more "real world"
> > why
> > not require anyone with an earlier than V3 lab to retake the lab at V4
> > that
> > is reasonable to make sure they are up to speed if that were the real
> > intent?
> > If they were interested in keeping the numbers down why not do that vs
> > issuing
> > a V4 that seems to be over the top? Seems to me that much of this is
> money
> > driven then they would ever care to admit to. Well back to MPLS for
> > today's exciting topic.
> >
> >
> > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > Subscription information may be found at:
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Wouter Prins
> wp_at_null0.nl
> CCIE #25628
>
>
> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html

Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
Received on Sat Dec 05 2009 - 10:00:41 ART