Re: OT:Cisco becoming Microsoft ?

It is a multi billion dollar part of thier business, by cisco's own
information there is well over 1 million certs out there, with the intial
being say a very conservative 1K investment then the cost to maintain it
clearly is not the bulk of the business but certainly nothing to sneeze at
either.

--- On Sat, 12/5/09, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com> wrote:

From: Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: OT:Cisco becoming Microsoft ?
To: "John Pelletier" <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>
Cc: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>, ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 9:48 AM

John,

I'm not speaking for Joe here but the turnover of everything you mention is a
small fraction of cisco's net.

Getting everyone certified helps get more Cisco products landed into
datacentres. Something that is probably more revenue generating for Cisco than
the money they make on testing to be honest.
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pelletier"
<john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>
To: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>; "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: OT:Cisco becoming Microsoft ?

> So the millions of Cisco Press sales, 360 program, training services,
partner
> requirements, testing center fees, explosion of certs etc etc etc are just
a
> service they provide to be philanthropic, I never saw it that way thanks
> thanks Joe.
>
> --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Joseph L. Brunner <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Joseph L. Brunner <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
> Subject: RE: OT:Cisco becoming Microsoft ?
> To: "John Pelletier" <john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com>,
> "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:31 AM
>
>
> Cisco probably made more money this week in swing trading their own options
> than in the History of the Certification programs combined...
>
> A 150+ Billion dollar company makes money on financial engineering- not on
the
> schmuck's back who slaps down his Capital One visa card and charges 1400 for
a
> test
>
> Nice try...
>
>
> LOL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
John
> Pelletier
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:44 AM
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: OT:Cisco becoming Microsoft ?
>
> All, I know this is off topic hence the OT in the subject line. A couple
of
> observations to consider, agree/disagree/disregard as you wish.
>
> Seems to me with the explosion of certifications coming out of Cisco it is
> becoming the new Microsoft of the networking world only really concerned
with
> how much money it can generate from issuing and requiring the maintenacne
of
> a
> laundry list of certifications. Many of which now clearly overalp ie
> CCNP/CCSP
> with extensive IPSec VPN, CCIE R&S and SP with MPLS, and Security with VPN
> and
> MPLS VPN etc. Would they be better off with one cert to cover the 3 for
> instance? And yes I know each goes much deeper into other areas as well.
>
> Also, IF cisco was soooo concerned with the RS V4 being more "real world"
why
> not require anyone with an earlier than V3 lab to retake the lab at V4
that
> is reasonable to make sure they are up to speed if that were the real
intent?
> If they were interested in keeping the numbers down why not do that vs
> issuing
> a V4 that seems to be over the top? Seems to me that much of this is money
> driven then they would ever care to admit to. Well back to MPLS for
> today's exciting topic.
>
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